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Episode 93

Just a little something about Kanda's tattoo, people...

This was in the manga too but I missed for some reason ~~clearly, because it wasn't shiny there.~~

Hum, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Akuma plant... egg... something? Or are those symbols the effect of Cross's magic? Either way... Hum, clue to something about Kanda and his mysterious healing powers? Kanda's tattoo seems to have an extra dash on top but the shiny-ness of the symbols might be "hiding" it... Or are they actually different symbols? Does anyone know what they mean?

And not really related but... it's a woman singing the 14th's song... Hum, Maria, anyone?

Yeah, I have nothing more to say. Discuss! =D o

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wow it really seem to be the same symbol o.o
I hope that the truth behind Kandas tattoo will be revealed soon (omg sorry for my bad english xD).
I always thought of his abilities like a kind of second innocence or somethin'...

The woman singing was Allen's seiyuu, Sanae Kobayashi.

Yes, she's right. Sanae Kobayashi is a girl, if anybody does still not know or perhaps, forgot XD

I knew it was a girl who voiced Allen, actually XD Just didn't imagine that was her singing... O_O

Shoot, there go all my theories about Maria, the 14th and Mana... Well, not really but now I can't say I have proofz XP

Well, she's one of my favorite seiyuus, so I recognized her voice.:D Been following her ever since her role in Hikaru no Go.

Haha, let me hear your theory? I always love seeing things from different viewpoints.

It's not exactly a full-fledged theory or anything but here goes nothing XD

We know Cross somehow knew Mana and the 14th. And Cross has Maria. And Maria's attacks are illusions which use her voice to mess with people's brains. So, since Allen says the song was "implanted" and that he can hear someone singing in his head... I was expecting to hear the 14th or Mana singing since we know it's the 14th's memories that were implanted in his brain but, when I heard a woman, Maria popped into my head for the above reasons. I mean, we know nothing about her... And I'm guessing she'll be related to all this.

It's a looooong shot, I know XD But I was so expecting to hear a man singing it that when it was a girl... I could only think of Maria. Unless what we're hearing are not exactly Allen's memories or something...

Actually, I was the one who forgot that Allen is being voiced by a girl haha XD

Bummer. So I really have to update the anime even if teh filler sucks big time. I need to hear those voices, both Allen's song and Maria's :D

Oh, no, we don't hear Maria singing... That's just me speculating XP Allen sings a bit, though! And his seyuu sings the whole song in a more girly-voice and me, being dumb, didn't know it was her and immediately went all "OMG, it's Maria!!! *brain explodes from theories*"

But watch it! Despite the fillers (some of which are actually funny and we get Kanda's story from the novel too!) it's actually good!

The Skull People also did the symbols and said AUM when converting Tapp into being one of them, so it's not so much a surprise that Kanda ties in with them.

also wouldn't be surprised if the person that Allen has to kill is Kanda.

Ugh, I didn't notice the symbol at all in the manga ~~because I'm stupid~~ '-_- But if that's supposed to be an Om... where's the rest of it? O_o

No, no, no, no, no, no more fighting between the boys >_< Lavi and Allen was enough. No Kanda fighting Allen...... I hope...... But why do you say that? ~~'cause, apparently, you have a knack for divining things 8D~~

Initial translation said something along the lines of Allen 'killing that person' though later it was translated as 'one you love' which probably is more accurate.

Kanda said, "I can't die until I find that person."

Granted, I'm not saying that's my prediction, but more me really not being surprised. I'd be disappointed if it was Lenalee because that'd be so obvious, but also I'd be heartbroken if Allen and Kanda had to really duke it out. Could also have their fighting between them be a sort of prelude to it.

Hum, but did they both use the same phrasing on the original? 'Cause I don't know any japanese, so I wouldn't know >_> <_< In case Cross and Kanda both said the same thing then, yeah, it's possible. And given the fact that Kanda's past has been a secret for so long... (Hell, we know more about LAVI than about him...) *do not want to think about it* As for being Lenalee... I'm with you; I hope it's not her, for several reasons.

Actually, I thought in regard to who he'll have to kill, I kind of thought it might be the Millenium Earl. Not because Allen loves him, but he Fourteenth, being a Noah and all, would. But he's turned against him, and is forced to fight him. Even though his basic instinct as a Noah would be to follow the Earl. *shrugs* I dunno. I just really hope it isn't Lenalee. Or anyone else, for that matter.

*nods* I noticed it, too.

I wonder... I mean, the thing Cross did was a spell, right? And we're pretty certain that whatever the tattoo on Kanda is, it's a spell, too. Maybe they're of the same type? I mean, when you think about it, it's a bit similar -- keeping Kanda alive and keeping the egg in the Ark. Sort of. It's a "restoration" kind of thing, it feels like.

I've always thought "that person" that Kanda's looking for was the person who cast the spell on him in the first place. (I've been wondering, actually, if it might not be whoever taught Cross magic...)

More of a "keeping" spell, I think; keeping the egg in the ark, keeping Kanda alive XP *is stupid* But, yeah, I agree with you there.

But that makes me wonder where Cross learned spells similar to the Skulls'... And now Kanda's tattoo... I'm starting to think this is all a very bad omen for poor Yu...

As for the person... It can be anyone, really '-_- *sigh* A friend of mine said, jokingly of course, that he was looking for his mommy because Tiedoll stole him XP But whoever it is, I'm betting this is all connected...

I wonder if it's connected to the 14th and/or Mana. The spells, I mean. I think it really is a bit too late to introduce new characters; likely, whoever it is will be someone we've at least heard of. (...But then again, as my friend reminded me, Sherril/Cyril/whatever-we're-calling-him-now is pretty much completely new, so who knows...)

*nods* I think it'll all come together.

I wonder if it's connected to the 14th and/or Mana. - Exactly my point~! The 14th was a Noah so it makes sense he would have the same spells as the Skulls and he could've taught them to Cross.

Now only to know who's the mysterious person who gave Levellier info on the 14th, the one we glimpsed on that bed... 'Cause, honestly, he's in it too >.> <.

*nods* Since the Earl was the master of magic, right? So it'd make sense if one of his Noahs knew magic. And. Heck. There must be a reason the 14th is the only one who can control the Ark...

Ah? I'm... not sure I remember that.

Yup, exactly. And we don't see other Exorcists doing magic, either. So Cross probably learned it somewhere else. The link between Cross and the 14th tightens XP

Chapters 136 and 137! In 137, page 15 we actually see a hand, probably from the "old man" Levellier says gave him info on the 14th ^_^

Yeah. And there's the question of why Cross is so concerned with the 14th in the first place. I mean. His promise with the 14th doesn't exactly make any sense...

Huuuuuuh... I'd forgotten all about that. Hmm, it matched up with what we knew before, but if Allen got the whole of the 14th's memories, as they're implying now, I wonder how it's possible...

All I know is that the "symbol" is a sanskrit letter, and Kanda himself has a lot of symbolic ties to Hindu mythologies. No idea what the relation to that spell is, though.

I think I once saw something posted around here stating that, too... Hum, must look. Do you happen to know more about the symbolism? ^_^

A little bit~

As we know, a few of the characters have names derived from brands, real people, etc. Considering the meanings therein, it's a more than good bet that Kanda = Khanda.

The Khanda was a kind of sword used in ancient India. It was a favorite of great warriors, etc, and one subset of Hinduism, the Sikhs, made it the central point of their religious symbol, representing the "knowledge of God".

The symbol is the "om", the sound that created the world. It's made up of four basic parts that represent the four states of human awareness: ordinary waking state, deep sleep, dream state, and the "awakened" state of absolute conscience. In Kanda's tattoo, the dream state is missing.

The lotus is a common repeated symbol in Hindu mythology, and the symbol for rebirth and enlightenment. There are a number of myths involving the lotus, and one goddess usually pictured sitting or standing on a lotus. Tying back into the "dream state" business, the lotus is brought up in various mythologies, and in real life, as a narcotic. In the Odyssey, there is an island of lotus-eaters, who drift into eternal dreaming by eating the lotus. Also certain variants of lotus can be turned into drugs that do, in fact, promote a state of waking dreams, often involving one's past. It was used ritually in ancient Egypt.

I'm sure you can find more if you do some research through google. =D

Also, someone on manga-helpers posted a picture of a "jewish sun symbol" that had that exact character on it, but upon doing some research I can't find that symbol again anywhere, and I've found one constant OTHER sun symbol that's actually the jewish one. So goodness knows. But I've seen Kanda's version of that symbol on various neo-pagan publications and fliers in public places, stuck in the middle of other hindu symbols. =)

Ooh, interesting~! *is a geek for religion/mythology/etc 8D*

I knew the part about the lotus! And I knew there was something wrong with that Om, just didn't know what.

That doesn't sound very reliable, then XP Must be Hinduism, indeed.

Thank you so, so, so much for this! ^_^ I'll have to investigate more now >.> <.

Woah, that makes a lot of sense. Oo

I always thought that Kanda was named as he is because he's Japanese, and since there are a lot of ties to religion and God here I thought Kanda was chosen because it had the character for 'god' in it. >>;

I also never knew that the lotus had so many ties to Hinduism. But in China and possibly Japan, it's regarded as "a flower that blossoms every 1000 years, and will continue to blossom"; basically meaning that it's an immortal/regenerating/whatever type of flower. So that's my reason for the decision of a lotus. (Or maybe it's there to make fun of Kanda's interest of gardening and his lack of masculinity.)

Who knows. I would bet on the rebirth symbolism for the lotus, though. It's pretty universal, and since he has those other things that tie into Hinduism, I wouldn't be surprised if that did too.

Speaking of which, his bracelet, though it's again got that new-age neo-pagan thing about it now, is originally a Hindu prayer bracelet. ♥

It is? Isn't it a nenju? I think a nenju would be more likely since he's Japanese.

Unless the nenju originated from the Hindu bracelet, then it'd basically be the same thing. lol

I would go with the rebirth theory, too. In "The Village Where the Witch Lives" (or something like that >.> <.< ... his story in the reverse novel/anime episodes), when he was talking about the lotus, he focused on the fact that it withered but bloomed the next morning again. Though rebirth could be linked to immortality it too, since it considers the soul to be immortal, right?

I noticed the bracelet too(which, actually, is exactly like one I own >.> <.<)! ^_^ But, again, I didn't know the origins. (Again, thanks! You're making me smarter~! XP)

I remember Cross' being a bit different from Kanda's in the manga...

Nice observation
Sorry, i don't know if was too excited in the moment I was reading that part of the manga, but I can't remember those symbols, do they really appear? can you please tell me which chapter =)?

*basenglish,sorry*

Chapter 133, page 5! ^_^ I didn't notice it in the manga, either >.> <.< But I went to check after seeing it in the anime and, yup, they're there. Pretty much the same image I posted.

yeah i was wondering this as well. actually, it has the same resemblance as the one in the manga as well. it's strange that it's Cross's magic that bears the symbol of Kanda's tattoo. perhaps this will be elaborated later on XD!

YAY! someone else noticed this! :D I was looking at this and was all like Wot da F*ck!? I wasn't sure thought thanks for making it clear enough! I wonder what it means though....

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