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Analyzing Allen's Dream in Chapter 184
Below I've tried to make sense of Allen's dream in chapter 184. So after analyzing it, here are my thoughts below the cut. :) Though this dream is fairly complex. So the dream could be interpreted in multiple ways, and it'd be great to hear other theories and opinions from other people. =D
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this already, but I think that when Mana said, "There's a guest waiting for you. They've been waiting for a long time," on page 5 in chapter 184 that he might be implying that the other Noah are waiting for Allen and he wants him to meet them.
Also it seems as if Mana is trying to erase Allen somehow which is symbolized by the progressive erasure of his name in pages 5-6. Everytime Mana says his name, a piece of it is replaced with an "o", and when Allen finally wakes up, he really has been replaced by the 14th. It's weird, but by replacing his name with indesipherable o's, it's as if Allen is being buried by those o's and the 14th is able to take over. It's like a chant/spell by Mana, or is this Mana actually the 14th?!
Thus I come to my third point that the clown Allen dreamed of was not Mana at all, but the 14th. He seems to want to introduce him to the Noah albeit. It also seems that he has resurrected the 14th by erasing Allen symbolized through the erasure of his name. It's also very likely that the voice in pages 2-3 could be the 14th talking directly to Allen and failing to overtake him that the 14th decided to appear before Allen by taking on Mana's persona instead in hopes of ressurecting himself, the 14th, by taking over Allen's consciousness.
Although there is a very akward shape in the sky that looks very similar to Lenalee's innocence in pages 2-4. Check out page 13 from chapter 153 and page 4 from chapter 184. Could the ominous voice instead be Lenalee's innocence and not the 14th's? After all, they are both asleep in the same room. So maybe it wasn't difficult for her innocence to communicate to Allen in a dream. This is a complex dream that's hard to interpret, but I really doubt Hoshino would put that white stylized figure of Lenalee's innocence in the sky if it wasn't supposed to be Lenalee's innocence, because it's too distorted to be a plane or a cross to me. Also it's in the sky like a bird which is what Lenalee's innocence essentially is.
I guess it's safe to assume that voice is coming from the sky, because Allen looks up toward the sky in the bottom panel on page 3 when the voice says,"Your soul is the one that needs to be saved". This could also further support the theory of it being Lenalee's innocence in the sky. Though this is where I fail to understand this part of the dream. if it was Lenalee's innocence in the sky talking to Allen, was that all it had to say? Was the message just to tell Allen that he was the one needing exorcism? Or was it because Mana and/or the 14th stepped in and interrupted the dream before it could say anything more? Or was the voice the 14th all along and not Lenalee's innocence at all?
To me, there seems to be a lot more going on than just Allen talking to Mana and waking up as the 14th. I think this dream shows how he turned into the 14th again through the replacement/erasure of his name with those o's. The 14th is actively trying to overthrow Allen now. This dream also seems to emphasize once again the connection between Allen and Lenalee at least through the appearance of her innocence's white silhouette in the sky. Also, if that isn't a white stylized silhouette of Lenalee's innocence, then what is it? O_oSurely nobody really thinks it's a bird or a plane? X3
Feel free to dissucss! Comments are really appreciated!
Meet the Noah
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this already, but I think that when Mana said, "There's a guest waiting for you. They've been waiting for a long time," on page 5 in chapter 184 that he might be implying that the other Noah are waiting for Allen and he wants him to meet them.
Resurrecting the 14th Noah
Also it seems as if Mana is trying to erase Allen somehow which is symbolized by the progressive erasure of his name in pages 5-6. Everytime Mana says his name, a piece of it is replaced with an "o", and when Allen finally wakes up, he really has been replaced by the 14th. It's weird, but by replacing his name with indesipherable o's, it's as if Allen is being buried by those o's and the 14th is able to take over. It's like a chant/spell by Mana, or is this Mana actually the 14th?!
The Clown is just a Disguise
Thus I come to my third point that the clown Allen dreamed of was not Mana at all, but the 14th. He seems to want to introduce him to the Noah albeit. It also seems that he has resurrected the 14th by erasing Allen symbolized through the erasure of his name. It's also very likely that the voice in pages 2-3 could be the 14th talking directly to Allen and failing to overtake him that the 14th decided to appear before Allen by taking on Mana's persona instead in hopes of ressurecting himself, the 14th, by taking over Allen's consciousness.
Lenalee's Innocence Appears?!
Although there is a very akward shape in the sky that looks very similar to Lenalee's innocence in pages 2-4. Check out page 13 from chapter 153 and page 4 from chapter 184. Could the ominous voice instead be Lenalee's innocence and not the 14th's? After all, they are both asleep in the same room. So maybe it wasn't difficult for her innocence to communicate to Allen in a dream. This is a complex dream that's hard to interpret, but I really doubt Hoshino would put that white stylized figure of Lenalee's innocence in the sky if it wasn't supposed to be Lenalee's innocence, because it's too distorted to be a plane or a cross to me. Also it's in the sky like a bird which is what Lenalee's innocence essentially is.
Was There a Message?
I guess it's safe to assume that voice is coming from the sky, because Allen looks up toward the sky in the bottom panel on page 3 when the voice says,"Your soul is the one that needs to be saved". This could also further support the theory of it being Lenalee's innocence in the sky. Though this is where I fail to understand this part of the dream. if it was Lenalee's innocence in the sky talking to Allen, was that all it had to say? Was the message just to tell Allen that he was the one needing exorcism? Or was it because Mana and/or the 14th stepped in and interrupted the dream before it could say anything more? Or was the voice the 14th all along and not Lenalee's innocence at all?
Conclusion
To me, there seems to be a lot more going on than just Allen talking to Mana and waking up as the 14th. I think this dream shows how he turned into the 14th again through the replacement/erasure of his name with those o's. The 14th is actively trying to overthrow Allen now. This dream also seems to emphasize once again the connection between Allen and Lenalee at least through the appearance of her innocence's white silhouette in the sky. Also, if that isn't a white stylized silhouette of Lenalee's innocence, then what is it? O_o
Feel free to dissucss! Comments are really appreciated!
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As for the 14th being pulled back from the surface, I think it has to do with Allen forgetting/doubting his own identity for the 14th's to move in more. Such as for example if perhaps Crown Clown attacking him, which would be a shock to him because of his views on good and evil. Which makes him doubt enough to let the 14th push him back until Kanda's yelling reminds Allen of who he is and takes control again.
Later again Mana in the dream could have been a image to fool Allen into running off as a child again (scar and white hair included so he's not completely lost, but enough to be distracted from his surrondings) for the 14th to awaken in his place until Lenalee calls Allen by his name, something dream Mana stopped doing, and snapped Allen back in control.
In the end it could be as long as Allen has links to what he feels is part of his identity, the 14th can't really take over for long.
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I really curious...Kanda and Lenalee had seen the 14th in Allen's face... Is Lavi going to see it too? Aaargh...I miss Lavi... DX
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I'm sure Lavi will see it eventually, I think Hoshi might be wanting to have the other main three characters see it since Kanda and now Lenalee are the first to see the 14th's face. How soon, not sure considering Lavi and Bookman appear to be laying low now that they may be indanger as well.
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I have this strange feeling that Link is going to make it the OT5 even though he's not an exorcist! XD Timothy doesn't quite fit.
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