http://are-late.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] are-late.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] dgray_man2010-02-22 03:54 pm

On Cross and the Bookman Clan

Well, hello everyone~  I must admit that there's something that has been bugging me for a while now, and I thought about posting it here to speculate/share theories/create a possible discussion about it.

I'd like to know if I'm the only one who thinks that, maybe, Lavi is a bit too young to be the immediate successor of the Bookman.


Alright, allow me to elaborate.

We all agree and are very aware that the current Bookman is quite an elderly man, yes? Something that Lavi likes to point out every time he gets the chance, too. Thing is, I think that if Bookman wasn't the strong old panda we all know and love, he probably would be presenting quite a heavy set of health conditions by now, if he had not died already of old age.

I'm talking of a 88 year-old man that went down the bumpy road and has spent most of his life traveling around restlessly, who also had the responsibility of not only dragging around a little redheaded brat, but raising and teaching that child the ways of the Bookmen. Not the best thing for his nerves, right?

Lavi began traveling with Bookman when he was 6 years old. That would make the old man 76 at the time. I'm sure that if Bookman hadn't been made of the strongest suit, he probably wouldn't have been able to take it. Especially since they've always found themselves within a violent, positively chaotic environment, as they keep records of the war and all.

Okay, now, my inquiries would be: why did Bookman have to wait so much to begin the instruction of his successor? And why was Lavi so young/Bookman too old when the time came? It really does make you wonder, if perhaps Lavi hadn't always been the original apprentice. That there was another, older person between Lavi and Bookman, who had been meant to carry on with the clan until Lavi (or any other, really) was old enough and mature enough to succeed that person to be the next Bookman.

And, also. Are there any theories as to why Cross wears a mask over his right eye? I looked for past entries in this community, but I couldn't find a post regarding this matter :(

I'd really love to hear your thoughts on this! ♥

[identity profile] bloodiedangle.livejournal.com 2010-02-22 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Your icon is <3

There is speculation that the Bookman Clan is a rather large organization. After all, what's the chance that two of two bookmen had usable innocence? I think Bookman only picked Lavi up for his eye(or whatever's under the patch).

As for Cross... half fasion statement, half for using the skull thing that's part of his innocence.

[identity profile] grayhour.livejournal.com 2010-02-22 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
My thought is that it is QUITE POSSIBLE that there were other apprentices before Lavi. However, being a Bookman isn't the easiest job, seeing as you have to give up your humanity to become a Bookman, and it's likely that you'll be killed while recording valuable history. So I'd say that any other apprentice Bookmen probably either

a) dropped out, because they were too much individuals to become Bookmen
b) went completely crazy because of the things they've seen/learned
c) were killed, either in action or because they dropped out of being Bookmen, and knew too much.

[identity profile] mellmell.livejournal.com 2010-02-22 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I also think that there has to be other Bookmen. How two people can record things that are going on all over the world is beyond me. :/
I don't know what Bookman's got goin' on, but I don't think there is just one of them. There can't be. I:

[identity profile] kara-angitia.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
*long post is long*

lol! This actually one of my favourite theories that Cross was Bookman's original apprentice. And yes, a lot of it has to do with Cross mask but there are some other interesting things to point out.

*Bookman was the only person who knew that Cross could convert Akuma.
*Chomesuke knew who Lavi was on sight and refereed to him as Bookman Junior rather then his Persona name of Lavi.

As for the Innocence thing I have a feeling(especially with all the stuff we've seen in recent chapters) that the Bookman clan may know some secrets about Innocence and can bend it to their will. Because I'm not sure about the rest of you but it's awfully convenient that both Bookman and his Apprentice can use Innocence. Even more so since there are only 41 known pieces out of 109 in the entire world. Even if Bookman was to spend his time waiting for the right person to come along the chances of him actually finding someone is just... HUGE.

It might also help in explaining Cross's disappearance. Now, I'm of the 'Alive until proven otherwise' team when it comes to Cross's 'death'. No body was every found, only glimpsed briefly by some unknown guard, and just because Judgment isn't linked to him anymore proves nothing. Even the blood could have been planted. He's a smart man so it wouldn't be difficult to pull off(it helps that he has a corpse who can mind-feck people)

I agree with sakanagi that Cross probably hasn't been with the Order long and was an Exorcist and General for even less time. So it's possible that he could have trained with Bookman and bumped into the 14th at some point and rethought his life.

Either way I just want to know more about the clan because they're one of the series biggest mysteries. Even Hoshino said that they were key to the over-all plot of DGM *kicks Hoshino* COME ON!

Maybe im the only one but...>>

(Anonymous) 2010-03-02 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
I dont think. Cross has anything to do with the bookman at all actually(other then being in the order with them).I like to think he wears a mask cuz he has a hideously deformed scar on his face, and thay he can just manipulate the mask using magic the same way he manipulates marias body. Oh and in responce to someone up there i think chomsuke refered to lavi as junior cuz thata how cross knew\described him. ....and as for lavis eye, it leaves me really befuddled cuz when he was fighting with allen after road took him over it gave him magical super strenght and a face tattoo...so really at thiz point i think it could be anything from a giant swerlling vortex to rabbit yoshi .-.