In Search of the Heart - A Theory about the Heart of the Innocence

[scarlet-pencil.livejournal.com]

Hello!  I thought you guys might be interested in a theory about the Heart that I posted here at my journal.  It was one of those things that just hit me randomly while I was reading the latest chapters.  xD  It contains some spoilers for the latest chapters.

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[scarlet-pencil.livejournal.com]

Exactly. And, to be honest, I'm not sure I want him too. Lavi is both the Exorcist and the Bookman; I think he needs to find a middle ground between the two, not choose one. If he does choose, I think that would only be half a Lavi and I really don't want that.

I agree! It is possible to record history and participate in it as well, after all.

As for the Noah... Hell, I have a gazillion questions about them XP If they were saved by God, as in the Bible, why would they side with the Earl, who is God's enemy? Road says the Exorcists follow a false God... She says they are the Earl's sacrificial lambs...

Good questions. The Noah seem to sincerely believe in what they're doing-- wiping out everyone else on the planet. Maybe they think they're doing God a favor by finishing the job he started with the first Flood? And I think you're right on the Noahs representing the darker side of humanity. It's a toss up then, as to whether any of the Noahs will be redeemed.

Unless the Heart doesn't do anything special O_O You know, since it binds all other parts together, it doesn't really have a great power but exists to GRANT power to all the others and give them a will or something? More reasons for Lavi to be the Heart since his Innocence seems so... unspecial. YAY =D

Ooh, now that's an interesting theory. Perhaps the Heart acts as a booster of sorts, powering up other Innocence in its general area? Or it could act as a coordinator, allowing the Innocence to work together better?

Hum, Hevlaska is at the Order ever since it was founded some 100 years ago O_O I'm guessing Rouvelier isn't that old? XD

... Oh. XD So much for my reading comprehension skillz. *laughs*

I think it's a family matter, really. Remember the boy who was experimented on? Maybe he was offered as a sacrifice (as some from Rouvelier's family seem to be) but he was actually close to Rouvelier and he blames Hevlaska for killing him? I'm thinking something like this, anyway O_O

That would make sense. Although, I thought Rouvelier wanted to protect Hevlaska when the Order was under attack from the Level 4? I need to reread the entire manga those chapters. XD

The Vatican sounds fishy, at least coming from Rouvelier's mouth... "No other reason than defeating the Earl" That sounds just a little weird and almost as if he's hiding something...

Very fishy. The Vatican sounds way too large to be soley interested in defeating the Earl. It seems to me like the Vatican doesn't completely trust the Order... which makes sense. At the moment, the Order is the only organization capable of combatting the Earl. I'm certain the Vatican isn't happy about that.

Believing everything his superiors tell him, never questioning anything. But who knows?

I don't know either. I'm not quite certain what to make of Rouvelier. He definitely has an agenda, but beyond that, I can't even begin to guess. XD

They're relocating to the Asian Branch? O_O Whaa~? I thought that wasn't confirmed yet. Lavi was even asking if it was near London, since he heard something about it. Could you please point me where you saw this, please? Or did you just assume it since they have an easy means of transportation to get there: the Ark?

I thought I read it at the beginning of the Zombie chapters.... *checks* Oops, my mistake! XD; I thought that they specifically said the Asian branch, but it looks like I was wrong. ^^; Sorry!

That's a very interesting article on the Pope. Assumining that the Pope of Hoshino's world is the same as this one... it brings out some interesting possibilities. This Pope definitely seemed like the type to overlook some suffering in the interests of bettering the church. At the same time, he wasn't evil either. Perhaps in DGM's Vatican he could have started up a committee to oversee the Order and the fight against the Exorcists, a committee which then later develped alterior motives/was infiltrated by the Earl/any number of shady things. Fufufu. >D

And no problem with the inbox thing. :D

[crisyah.livejournal.com]

"Or it could act as a coordinator, allowing the Innocence to work together better?" --- I'm going more for this one. And who better to do that than Lavi, the one who is able to put his heart aside to see the bigger picture and plan a strategy; the one who also can't get rid of his heart enough to sacrifice the other Exorcists? This is, off course, assuming he can find a middle ground... Oh, I can imagine Lavi being a General; the chief of the General's, really, with Lenalee, Allen, Kanda and maybe Krory and Miranda (?) working under him XD Such a bright future, I envision for my dear Lavi! ...And such awful subordinates I give him XD

Hum, I have to reread those chapters as well since I can't quite remember Rouvelier's reaction and his position about Hevlaska; all I remember is him wanting to drag Lenalee over there >.< (And Lavi being oh so sweet to her XD I love that boy...)

The Vatican seems to want to keep the Order on a tight leash. Too tight, really. Of course they're the only ones who can fight the Akuma and they are very important but why should they send someone like Rouvelier to keep it under check? Remember the reunion with the Generals? Just a little too radical, I think... But does he have specific orders to act like that or that's simply him being himself? Though I do think he gets a sadistic pleasure from his power over the Order (his creepy smile while telling Allen about the 14th suddenly comes to mind) and the whole talk of "the pope's army" makes me think he's not only a radical but also that he was put in that position BECAUSE of that. But maybe he's just a bad apple... Or maybe he'll end up being a GOOD apple because he genuinely seems to hate the Earl and is being used by his superiors who have other intentions?

Like you said, any number of shady things could happen... The problem with DGM (as well as why it is so interesting compared to some other manga out there *cough*Bleach*cough*) is that there are countless possibilities... and we can only guess!

Although, sad as it is, I think we're going into the last arcs of the series; the plot can't be stalled forever, these new uniforms give out the impression that they are finally going into an open war (at least they're all military - and awesome - looking and everything O.o), we had that chapter on the Noah and the Earl's human form, Allen's already a Point Breaker so there isn't much more he can evolve in terms of powers (unless he's really the Heart '-.- but even so...) and the fans are getting too itchy to get the mysteries (namely Kanda's tattoo and "that someone" and Lavi's eye) solved to keep it from them for too long without starting a riot XD I really think after this crack mini-arc, Hoshino will start uncovering everything she has introduced so far; that could actually be the reason why she has stopped this week to "sort out the upcoming plot".

Having said this... DGM's ending scares me a bit O.O Not only because I love it and there's always that bittersweet feeling at seeing something you love ending but I really think some characters I love might die. Allen, for example ;-; I have been saying that for a while now... You know when Lavi was watching him going into the light in the Ark? And I can totally see him dying for his friends in a messianic way (Mana did give him the birthday of 25th of December and I have been reading some analogies between his role and Jesus that seem to make sense, so...). And I can see Lavi taking the lead if that happened and keep everyone together, really, which could be ANOTHER reason for him being the Heart. I read somewhere that he was supposed to be the main character for another of Hoshino's manga so maybe we would get a DGM2 focused on Lavi, then... But that's beyond the point XD

(Aww, man, I should gather up all my theories and all we've been discussing and post them up on my journal since it doesn't even have an opening post, ne? Or maybe gather them all into that fic that will never see the light of day... XD Thanks for the discussion, it's really interesting ^_^)

[scarlet-pencil.livejournal.com]

XD Poor Lavi. With subordinates like them, who needs enemies? Though, I think that is actually a likely theory. If the Heart is just a booster, that would explain why it doesn't appear any different than any other Innocence. And you make a good point on Lavi's ability to make detached decisions, too. ^^

Hee hee, all I remember was Allen fighting off the Level 4 and Lavi and Kanda jumping in to help him hold it off, even though they didn't have any weapons. XD

Yeah, there's a lot of questions hovering around the Vatican and Rouvelier. Though, I have to say that Howard Link Ahaha, I nearly misspelled that as "Kink" seems like a genuinely good person to me. So maybe that reflects on his superior a bit? I don't know. XD;

It does seem like it's time to start going into the final stage of things, doesn't it? And the new uniforms are awesome. <3 But it will be great to finally start getting some answers to the trillions of questions. XD I'm very curious about Kanda's mysteries, in particular. And Lavi's eye is going to be interesting as well. Gramps doesn't have anything going on with his eyes, after all. Fufufu.

I'd be sad to see the series end, too. There aren't many manga series that really excell in characters, plot, and artwork, but DGM is awesome in all those respects. As for people dying... I'm going to cling to the general "main characters don't die" idea as my only hope. Allen can't die, nooooooo. T.T Although Allen is the type to be quite happy with sacrificing himself for others. *forboding feeling*

I remember reading about that. Lavi was supposed to be the main character of a manga called "Bookman," but Hoshino ended up using him and the Bookmen in DGM instead. Fufufu... That means that there is definitely a lot more to the Bookmen than what we've seen, since Hoshino planned out a lot for them. :D

(Hee hee, that would be awesome! And I've really enjoyed our discussion too. ^_^ It convinced me that I need to reread the manga, ahaha. XD)

[crisyah.livejournal.com]

Imagine Kanda being bossed around by Lavi? And Krory and Miranda messing everything up? XD Though I really think he's the perfect choice to keep everyone in check O_O Allen's just... not leader material; too soft. Although he's still just a fifteen-year-old, he could mature a bit and become a wonderful leader, who knows?

Ooh, I remember that as well! Who's the cold bastard who doesn't care about anyone now, Kanda? XD (Only slightly related but that part, after the fight, when everyone was mourning together - right before Tapp died - and Kanda walked away alone broke my heart ;-;)

To me, Link is even weirder than Rouvelier O_o I really don't know what to think of him... If you think about the part, after the Level 4 fight, when he carried Allen back; was that really just his job or an act of kindness? Anyway, he's too stiff and uptight for my taste XP

I'm really thrilled about this next stage; so many things could happen! Ditto about Kanda's mysteries 8D "There aren't many manga series that really excell in characters, plot, and artwork, but DGM is awesome in all those respects." --- Exactly! Don't get me wrong, I love Bleach, Naruto and a bunch of others as much as the next person but DGM... I don't know; it's special. It's really well done, the characters are fantastic (I remember I only settled on a favourite after Lavi's fight with Road because I love them all so much), the Noah are amazing villains and the plot is just... gahh. Well, it got us discussing this far and we're only really talking about Lavi and the Heart XD

"I'm going to cling to the general "main characters don't die" idea as my only hope. Allen can't die, nooooooo. T.T Although Allen is the type to be quite happy with sacrificing himself for others." --- I'm trying to do the same but as I was rewatching the anime recently, I just keep thinking about Lenalee's weird dreams of everyone dying and that opening with her crying and Allen resting on her lap... Maybe that was solely about the rough time he had at the Asian Branch? But then again, she started having those weird thoughts again in the Ark... So is the anime only taking liberties or do they know something we don't? *crosses fingers for Allen and everyone else to be safe and sound by the end of the manga*

Ne, ne, maybe we'll get a full mini-arc about the Bookmen, since Hoshino has so much backstory done on them? :D

(I think I'll do that as soon as college stops feasting on my brain. Aah, don't worry, I'm the girl who keeps forgetting important plot points XD Like what Rouvelier told Allen about the 14th and that Krory was a parasitic type XD --- But I didn't get any sleep that night so maybe... that's an excuse?)