Speculation on the Crow's Banishing Technique

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

***Warning! Chapter 181 Spoilers Below!!!***

Please discuss! :D



Obviously a Similar Technique
Link and Madarao's technique to banish akuma are really similar. Both of their arms used for the technique show a lot of muscular tension in pages 14 of chapter 177 (Link) and 10 of chapter 181 (Madarao). Also, they both seem to banish akuma through a vortex, (Think Miroku's Wind Tunnel from Inuyasha.), in pages 15 of chapter 177 (Link) and 13 of chapter 181 (Madarao). Although, Link never finished his "Secret Spell" to banish the level two because he was turned into a doll. Thus, it's difficult to be completely certain that he was also using the same vortex technique as Madarao. Though, I'm pretty sure that Link is using a technique to banish akuma that is very similar, if not the same, as Madarao's. I just think that Link's ability/technique isn't as developed and powerful as Madarao's...yet. ^w^


How Could Link Develop His Strength?
Anyway, Madarao's left arm transformed like a parasitic innocence on page 11 in chapter 181 (not to mention that he appears to be licking his lips O_o). He even told it to "invoke" in the page's last frame. Link did not "invoke" his arm and it did not transformed very much or at all in chapter 177. Since Crows don't use innocence, maybe Madorao upgraded his black magic vortex technique with some sort of fake paracitic innocence developed by the Science Department, has had more practice with black magic, or had surgery. XDD If Link hopes to defeat a level 3 maybe he'll have to upgrade like Madarao did and get a fake paracititic innocence, or maybe it takes more intensive training and learning new spells?


The Difference Between an Exorcist and a Crow
If it is a fake paracitic innocence/something similar and all the Crows are doing is banishing the akuma and not puryfiying the soul within so it can go to Heaven, then maybe that's the reason why the order sends exorcists out on missions and not Crows. Only exorcists can get rid of the akuma and save the souls trapped within them. The Crows might be banishing both the akuma and the souls they carry, and thus they can't give the souls any salvation. In fact, maybe those souls are forever lost in the Crow's banishing vortext...Yet, if that's true, that would make a Crow a very suitable fighter for a level 4 which do not contain souls anymore. So, maybe our lip-licking vacuum-vortexing Crow, Madarao, can just suck up that level 4 and it will all be over...but that would be too anticlimactic, wouldn't it?


Counter Argument on the Above
Though, maybe they are not the same technique and just have similarities. After all, Madarao invoked his weapon and said "Devouring Machine" and "Creation Hole" on page 12 in chapter 181. Link did not invoke his spell that appeared to be a similar vortex in chapter 177, and he called it "Secret Spell". If they're using different names and one Crow has to invoke with a fully transformed arm and the other does not, then maybe it isn't the same technique they're using after all. Or could it just be that different Crows call their vortext's different things but they are essentially the same technique used against akumas? Or could they be different because of the different levels of strength and ability between Link an Madarao? The different levels of strength could also explain why Madarao's hand transformed into a much more black-hole vacume like drain while Link's didn't appear to have taken on such an exagerated form. Thus, this explains why Madarao's hand was more powerful and effective at sucking in a level three than Link's.


Other Commentary on Chapter 181
Anyone having trouble pronouncing Madarao's name or think it's a little awkward? It doesn't seem to roll off of my tounge very well when I say his name. =_=; And Madarao needs to come vaccume my floor, because there have been a lot of akuma dust bunnies running around lately. XDD I just thought of this theory and this is the first time I've written a critique on a manga chapter in my life, but I hope someone found it interesting to read. ^_~ Also, I have not read the entire manga or seen the entire anime, and all of this information and images came from OneManga.com's newly released scanlation. So, I apologize if there are any serious holes in my theory due to my lack of knowledge on D.gray-man, the possiblity of any mistranslations in the scanlation, or if my argument was completely obvious and everyone kind of knew this already. Though, I had fun speculating so much on just two black crows. *caw caw* Okay, yeah...That was kinda corny! XDD


Comments are appreciated!

Comments

[lishypo.livejournal.com]

I got the impression from Madarao's reaction to Link's being there--"What is a Crow doing here?"--to mean that Madarao isn't a part of Crow but a different part of Central.

And to me their techniques seemed totally different, because Link uses spell cards for everything and Madarao merely had to invoke his arm. When Link said he could put the akuma out of commission, I took him to mean he could damage it enough so the exorcists could finish it off and he could get Timothy and everyone to safety. After Madarao absorbed the Level 3, Link was astonished, had obviously never seen anything like that before, and said, "He destroyed the akuma?!"

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

Ooohh. I forgot about his spell cards. >w<; Maybe Link and Madarao are using different techniques to produce a banishing vortex?

Anyway, It's hard to tell if Madarao or Link uttered the line about a Crow being in the fight scene. http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/10623 has translation saying that Link was the one who asked what was a member of Crow doing in the fight. I do think that Madarao is part of the Crow's special unit, but he could also work for different parts of Central, but I don't think anything has been revealed so far about him to support that at the moment.

I thought in chapter 177 on page http://www.onemanga.com/D.Gray-Man/177/14/ (please correct me if you meant a different chapter), Link wanted to banish the akuma completely to protect Timothy, Emilia, and everyone else, because there weren't any exorcists available at the time.

I believe Link's astonishment was from how easily Madorao got rid of the level 3 in comparison to how impossible it was for himself to block it let alone banish it.

[lishypo.livejournal.com]

Ah, that would make more sense if it's Link saying it. And maybe Link is simply a lower level than Madarao, which is why he requires the cards. He is only 19, and Madarao looks like he'd be older. And we already know Madarao's an extremely skilled sorcerer just from his being able to break through the barrier and get inside to everyone.

Nope, that's exactly the chapter I was referring to. The version I'd read didn't say "banish," that's why I was under the assumption he meant damage.

I'm more curious as to who Madarao is. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but Link seems to know him as more than just a comrade, like they're related somehow.

[revolve.livejournal.com]

Link is only 19? I had no idea. He looks older. Where did you find this?

[lishypo.livejournal.com]

http://read.mangashare.com/D.Gray-man/chapter-138/page014.html

It's not translated, but I'm pretty sure he's saying it's okay to eat nothing but cake since he's 19. X3 He says it in the anime as well. And it's in the fanbook here (http://www.dgraydivinity.net/forum/bookmans-library/1095-d-gray-man-official-fanbook-character-profiles-2.html) (second post, under the spoiler cut).

[revolve.livejournal.com]

Wow. I'm really suprised. XD

Thanks!

[lishypo.livejournal.com]

You're welcome! ^^

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

He does look older doesn't he? He's a little like Kanda...just nicer, intellectual, and BLONDE! XDDD

[revolve.livejournal.com]

Hahaha, I can see it. But like you said, Link is much more polite, I think. :D

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

I agree on Link being more polite too. ^w^

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

I know. Sometimes, when I'm reading a comic, I can't quite tell who's saying what, because it's not clear who's speaking in the text bubbles. =_= In fact, most of the dialogue for chapter 181's 16th page is hard to follow.

"The version I'd read didn't say "banish," that's why I was under the assumption he meant damage. " Translations sure can vary, huh? Even though banish and destroy are similar, it still makes a difference when the translators don't use the same words. Where'd you get your scanlation from? I'm just curious to read how another translator approached interpretting the dialouge for other scanlations of the DGM chapters. :3

Reading too much into it? Heeheee! It's okay, becasuse I just wrote a whole article on it. Also, I'm surprised you mentioned them being related, because if the female Crow is really his biological sister and not just calling him brother as an endearment maybe Link could be related. Link and the female Crow both have light hair, but I bet it's too far fetched right now to seriously analyize actual biological realtions between Madarao, the female Crow, and Link. Maybe Madarao is like the equivalent to a exorcist general or a commander and might have helped train Link.

"And maybe Link is simply a lower level than Madarao, which is why he requires the cards. He is only 19, and Madarao looks like he'd be older." I like that idea. That's kind of along the line of what I've been wondering. I just didn't think about the cards. =D It makes a lot sense now.

[lishypo.livejournal.com]

That's (http://read.mangashare.com/D.Gray-man/chapter-177/page014.html) the version I read. ^^

I was noticing that Madarao also seems to have a braid like Link's, which is me totally grasping at straws now. XD

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

These two different scanlations do have a few differences, but the Manga Share's DGM scanlations do seem to have higher quality...like they actually use different fonts and they look cleaner than OneManga.com's. ^w^

At first I thought those were just tassels attached to Madarao's hat or something, but after looking again they could be braids too. Though, they are lighter than his bangs and there are two of them....(Now I'm thinking of pigtails! X3)

[lishypo.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Manga Share seems to take a little longer to update because they wait for higher quality scans. I always read what comes out on OneManga because they're fast, but then I go back to Manga Share later because I prefer their quality and translations. I have Manga Share on an RSS feed to get updates, but the comms I'm in always have the chapters up before I catch them on the feed. lol

Pigtails would be so cute! Since he's so bad ass and all, especially. I'll have to do some more inspecting myself.

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

I know! If those really are his pigtails, I'm gonna crap a golden egg! =D I like Manga Share's scanlations too now. They are cleaner and their translations flow better. I guess I can look forward to their scanlations now. ^w^

[pearlchasm.livejournal.com]

Madarao reminds me of Madao from Gintama, whose name has an... amusingly negative meaning to it XD

I have unfortunately nothing much to contribute to the discussion, except that Link and Madarao are most likely both Crow(s). The Crow uniform in chapter 168 (http://www.onemanga.com/D.Gray-Man/168/11/) reminds me a lot of Madarao's uniform (the "diamond" pattern wise), and I'd think they won't cover up their face in public like they did in Black Order |D
I had initially thought Madarao wasn't part of Crow, but after re-reading it again it seemed possible Link could be the one asking the question, so I dug through tons of previous chapter to find the Crow uniform to satisfy my curiosity even though it's 5+ am now >.>;;

[obsessed-love.livejournal.com]

Madarao reminds me of Madao from Gintama, whose name has an... amusingly negative meaning to it XD I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who thought this lulz!

As for the theory, I was thinking that Link's technique had some similarities to Madarao's with the whole vortex sorta thing too. I'm glad someone else saw this similaity :D

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one seeing a similarity too. I'm excited for the next chapter to find out more on this vortext technique. >w

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

I guess they have adjustable uniforms or just more than one, and they were covering their faces so carefully during the incident at the Black Order, because they didn't want the people they were investigating to know who they were incase they wanted to lash out at them later.

I don't who this Madao guy is from Gintama. So, I looked him on Google Images and I think he looks a lot more like Cross Marian! X3

[myreasoninlife.livejournal.com]

LOL I think I am going to be the only idiot to say this but I thought he was Miroku from Inuyasha at first.

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

Nice! :D I'm the one who couldn't even remember who Madarao reminded me of at first...then somebody mentioned that perv Miroku. :3 Madarao might turn out to be the Marian Cross of the Crow unit. XDDD Hahaa!!!

[revolve.livejournal.com]

LOL CROSSOVER XD

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

Lol! Madarao the pervy preist with a wind tunnel! XDD

[revolve.livejournal.com]

Couldn't resist. :D

(http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii3/julstimes2/?action=view&current=gsjnfmk.jpg)

[kresiana.livejournal.com]

OMG!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!

yeah, i imagine like tht too

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

Then I can't resist either! So here's our pervy preist Madarao and his chicka Sango Fay, because I couldn't figure out who to pair him with. XD

Madarao and Fay as Inuyasha's Miroku and Sango (http://inspirativedream.net/MadaraoAndFay.png)

I redrew about 1/3 of Madarao, because part of his head wasn't even drawn in the manga's panel, but I really wanted to use the picture of him licking his lips. X3 Also, I just posted a link to the picture, because I can't get the image to appear in my post. Any suggestions? ;_;

[revolve.livejournal.com]

You had it before. Use the code that starts with a href, if you're linking from a image hosting site. Hope that helps. :D

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

I was trying to use the tag to embedd an image that starts out like <img src=" . Though, it wasn't showing up in my post. So I just linked it. :/

[revolve.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, I have no idea then. It's probably just better to link than to have screwy html.

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

Yeah, you're probably right. Thanks for the help. :)

[revolve.livejournal.com]

No problem. :D

[drombanegirl.livejournal.com]

At moment it too soon to tell. I doubt that Madaros arm has anything to do with innocence or Links spells though. After all he managed to get through the barrier that prevents humans from passing through it, but the girl he was with didn't even try. Maybe he the result from experiments that the order did or something. I dunno, like mix an akuma and human together to make them super powerfull. Then again I'm probably way off

[murasaki-mary.livejournal.com]

"Maybe he the result from experiments that the order did or something. I dunno, like mix an akuma and human together to make them super powerfull."

Yeah, I stated something similar in my second paragraph that maybe some sort of fake innocence or something was created in an experiment and maybe by a science department. Maybe Madarao is a user of this fake innocence like weapon? http://www.onemanga.com/D.Gray-Man/181/11/ looks like there is a sphere like glowing object suspended in his arm. The thought went through my mind that maybe this has something to do with his weapon at least..? But the new chapter is coming out soon, and maybe we'll get some more info soon on Madarao or at least a good fight scene! =D

"I dunno, like mix an akuma and human together to make them super powerfull."

OMGosh! That sounds like Claymore! XD I love Claymore! <3 <3 <3