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Dynamics, are dynamic
Got into one of those moods and wrote this (cause I love Hoshi's way of creating dynamics between characters) and decided to post here, cause it was just sitting there all lonely before. XP
Analysis of the dynamics between Allen, Kanda, Lenalee, and Lavi. (Note* 1. Am unable to put all my thoughts in for that would take up too much space. 2. Pairings are kept to a minimal/zero. 3. Pardon me if the Allen sections seem bigger, we kind of see the whole thing from his view after all).
Lenalee = Lavi
He thinks she's cute, heck he may even like her as a crush (then again this is Lavi, he's kind of... himself). But there is more to it then that. Lenalee was the first human he reacted to emotionally in the order amongst all the death he had passively only watched a few seconds ago. I actually don't think either became closer to the other until after the Level 3 fight. Before Lavi became irrated at how her distress caused him to remember his own and made her cry, but after almost losing her he became much more ready to reach out to her. Lenalee is one of the few who shock Lavi with their humanity. Her need/devotion for her friends does interest him and he protects her even in times when as a bookman he shouldn't. She's one of the few people who have been shown to affect him a lot on a emotional level (ecspecially if you take in the whole Road dream sequence where she is one of the three to stab him, making me believe she is among the ones he feels most for).
She isn't as focused on him as she is of others and he is probably the one person among her friends she knows the least about (problem wise anyway). But she cherish's him and does actually accept his comforts with gratitude and trust. She doesn't put it past him to make a sneaky move sometimes, so she's careful (as in she implied she would attack him, but she said with a smile). ^ ^ By now I say he is one of her more valuable and irreplaceable friends.
Err, I have no idea what to call them. Friends/comrades who have been with each other for some time. XP
Kanda = Allen
My view on Kanda's and Allen's relationship is that of one that reminds me of a dog and cat who on the surface seem to just can't be able to get over their predujice of one another. They bicker like hens and offer very different views on how one should see the world and do the job. Allen's a person who goes out of his way to meet the needs of others, while Kanda's a person who just wants to go out do his job and meditate in his room with mugen nearby. On the surface they couldn't be any more different with snapping and not agreeing on the others view point, but ultimately their both more similar than either would ever care to admit as both can be stubborn and hyporcritical in what they do and say.
Allen I feel clashes with Kanda not just because he's a jerk, but also because I think he might see a bit of himself or at least his old self in Kanda. When we see Allen and Mana's first real meeting you see that Allen has a little Kanda-ish spin with his attitude and doesn't seem to eager with people compared to how he is now. Allen (usually Mr. Non-confrontational) perhaps feels the need to clash with Kanda instead of dropping it because it's like arguing with his past self whom he seems to feel no love for and wants to prove something to.
Kanda I think clashes with Allen because Allen just has to bang against his little iron wall of stability and knock him off balance with his way of adding the human element to practically everything. This, I think aggravates Kanda to no end. I have no idea about his past, but I get the impression that whatever happened messed him up to the point of not wanting anything to do with human warmth. He's a soldier on a mission and doesn't want anything to distract him. In this way you could say he's a bit of a coward. He gets angry when people show care about him like with Tiedoll and certainly does try the extra push to get people to back away from him. It's almost as if he's scared/bothered by acknowledging attachment to people, though I believe there are those he cares for. Kanda just wants to see things the way he views them and count on others to let him while Allen doesn't show much consideration for this and pushes his buttons without even trying by just being himself around him.
But they don't hate eachother, if they did they'd do their best to ignore the other completely. It's kind of funny actually, ususally in stories like these they'd be rivals, but that's a word that doesn't really fit their bond at all. They don't use the other as motivation for getting physical stronger such as the cliche, they actually instead they focus in on eachother and argue the way two obnoxious brothers who won't back down just cause do.
Allen of course cares and trusts Kanda like he does his other friends, actually it's funny that Kanda is the one of the group that naturally brings out the more devilish Allen that may be more true to his own personality. Kanda actually does care about Allen as well, at the very least trust him. It's not just supporting him by saving his life even when he says he wouldn't earlier, noticing his despair over Lala and trying to cheer him up in his own way, but Kanda actually still accepts Allen for Allen even after he is revealed to be a noah. He treats him the same as he would before and still trusts Allen to watch his back in battle. Even when the 14th surfaced and Kanda took a shot to his head, instead of keep attacking him like orders had suggsted he should if this would happen, Kanda instead called out to Allen and apparently had faith in Allen enough to snap back to his self to finish off the level 4.
So there is bickering, loads of tension, and just plain genuine dislike. But there is also a level of trust/faith that exists between the two that kind of reminds me of one I would find between Brothers in Arms. All in all, I'm surpised when I encounter people who think neither care at all about the other.
Lavi = Kanda
These two are kind of funny actually. In fact I don't really even think about their relationship much, but it's amusing how much Lavi can get away with his antics. Kanda actually puts up with and shows some respect to Lavi in ways others don't. Kanda, as much as he insults him, treats Lavi as an equal. He trusts Lavi to watch his back in the heat of battle even telling him when he doesn't have to put himself in danger like that. Lavi actaully get's special treatment when Kanda get's drunk one time (in the novels) and doesn't mistreat Lavi no matter what he does to him (the same can't be said for Allen or Komui). Sure he does threaten him (infact he nearly did when they first met) on average, but Lavi's got pretty good survival instincs so he dodges when he's in bunny mode.
Lavi's relationship to him is a little more vauge for me, I used to think of them drinking buddies (I have no idea, it just seemed to work) but Kanda ruined that for me when he showed he couldn't hold his liquor to save face. Kanda is one of the few people that is most important to Lavi at the Order, When he was dreaming inside Road's world Kanda was among the three who stabbed him, making me believe Kanda is one of the few who can affect Lavi personaly. He likes to hang with him despite the danger Kanda throws at him and I think of them as comrades that can get along in a certain understanding of how the other works at the least.
Allen = Lenalee
These two are pretty relaxing for me. While there can be some tension in their relationship with Lenalee worrying about Allen so much about both outside and inside forces (being him), overall they get along really well.
Lenalee is the one who wants to reach out to Allen and assure him of her care the most out of all his friends. She wishes he could be more informal to her, but respects his choices in how he responds. They both are comfortable with eahc other and Lenalee actually opens up to Allen with her deepest emotions in ways she rarely does with any one else showing how much trust and acceptance she has for him in her life. She knows he has problems but sees him as a pillar of strength with the way he handles them in front of others and takes inspiration from him to be stronger herself.
Infact even when it was thought Allen was gone forever she decided to stay firm in conviction that he would return someday to their side. If you know Lenalee this was a huge leap for the girl at the time who had more faith in death then life from the horrors she's seen. This was a lot a faith and trust she put in him and he did repay it by proving it correct.
Allen sees Lenalee as an equal in both the battle field and daily life. He's very good at balancing her strength and her emotional sides by reacting to them naturally. He readily comforts her when she seeks him out but never thinks she is weak or in need of over-protection. She is comrade and a woman who is strong and there for him, but also needs to feel security as well. He understands just how she loves him and the rest of her friends/family and she is the first one at the Order to make him understand the consequences of his death on others instead of plunging into situations that almost get himself killed without thinking more straight first (well as much as he can). XD
Both can be very in-synch with each other. They can react in battle to each others movements without the need to speak of it out loud and still end complimenting the others moves quite nicely.
These two are really close, they may even have something more then friendship for each other, but whatever the case neither are interested in moving to the next level prefering to be friends for now. They also got some funky Innocence/dream connection, but we know nothing of what that means for now.
If I could call them anything, I'd probably say best friends. Out of all the people they know in the Order they probably are the closest to each other from a fans view (this is exluding Komui and Cross).
Kanda = Lenalee
They've known each other for a really long time. Longer than any of the OT4. Both actually get along rather well, and that might come from knowing each other for so long.
Kanda cares about her, he doesn't suddenly act any different around her then any one else he's close to. But he does reach out to her in his own way when she feels down. He shows understanding when she feels troubled about herself and bluntly admits to her of his confidence in her strength, something he would never have done like that for Allen or Lavi. He knows she can get scared and camly always shelters her in his private room when she comes to him. But as said before he acknowledges her strength as both a person and soldier.
Lenalee knows Kanda. She knows his faults but also knows he isn't as bad as most think and has about near absolute zero fear of him ever hurting her. Which has saved the lives of both Lavi and Allen when she had to intervene during their first meeting with Kanda. He is one of the few people she trusts enough to show her vulnerable side to and seeks his presence out when people such as Leveirre (who is pretty much the real devil as far as she's concerned)come to the Order. She also trusts his word/strength almost unconditionaly, when he said she's strong she takes comfort in that, when he says he'll stay alive and meet with them again she takes it with smile in belief.
Both grew up as soldiers, they know this life style and have a quiet understanding and acceptance for how the other ticks in ways very few can. I think it's cute how they both meditate together or implied how Kanda was the one who probably taught her considering the year he joined was the same as when she learned. Kanda was probably a brother to her in a time when Komui was unable to be. I'd probably call them childhood soldier companions.
Allen = Lavi
I kind of like the development these two have had, at least from Lavi's side more so. At first Allen didn't click with Lavi at all and Lavi thought Allen was just a brat. But Allen gave into acceptance as a friend after Lavi kind of taught him a valuable dose of reality and Lavi, well during the Krory Recruit Arc I remember him giving Allen this, really thought/amazed look. From then on I considered it the real start of their friendship where as before Lavi was only pretending.
Allen is one of the main reasons Lavi doubts his want to stay neutral throughout his time knowing him. Allen is also the first "death" in the story that Lavi could not shake off as meaningless. He's lost people who have made him feel differently before, Doug for example, but Allen was the first human to show so much, I guess, humanity to everything in a world that discourages things such as that and that affected someone like Lavi who once thought himself better and others not worth anything from him. I suppose you could even say Lavi looks up to Allen in a way for his strength, thinking him something dazzling he didn't want to go away. Allen naturaly brings out a genuine sincerity in the actor Lavi and it's when Lavi is most furious we've seen in him it's because of losing Allen to Tykki and a inability to forget that until it's confirmed Allen's alive. All in all, I think Allen was the one who helped made Lavi realise not only couldn't he ignore his own heart, but that having one wasn't so bad either.
Despite how annoyed Lavi can make him and how little he knows about him (from our view), Allen is more or less fond of him and accepts him as one of his closest friends. He's not always respectful to Lavi (not that Lavi seems to care that much) but he can interact with him in a playful manner and trusts in his ability in battle to support him enough. He's also gone to great lengths to protect Lavi and even show a absolute refusal at all to hurt him when both were forced to fight by Road.
It's kind of funny, but both seem to regard the other almost as a little brother. Lavi of course he's older and feels responsible almost for him, Allen because he sees Lavi as more childish and I wouldn't be surpised if at times he forget Lavi is the older one. XP
Phew done, ...
Analysis of the dynamics between Allen, Kanda, Lenalee, and Lavi. (Note* 1. Am unable to put all my thoughts in for that would take up too much space. 2. Pairings are kept to a minimal/zero. 3. Pardon me if the Allen sections seem bigger, we kind of see the whole thing from his view after all).
Lenalee = Lavi
He thinks she's cute, heck he may even like her as a crush (then again this is Lavi, he's kind of... himself). But there is more to it then that. Lenalee was the first human he reacted to emotionally in the order amongst all the death he had passively only watched a few seconds ago. I actually don't think either became closer to the other until after the Level 3 fight. Before Lavi became irrated at how her distress caused him to remember his own and made her cry, but after almost losing her he became much more ready to reach out to her. Lenalee is one of the few who shock Lavi with their humanity. Her need/devotion for her friends does interest him and he protects her even in times when as a bookman he shouldn't. She's one of the few people who have been shown to affect him a lot on a emotional level (ecspecially if you take in the whole Road dream sequence where she is one of the three to stab him, making me believe she is among the ones he feels most for).
She isn't as focused on him as she is of others and he is probably the one person among her friends she knows the least about (problem wise anyway). But she cherish's him and does actually accept his comforts with gratitude and trust. She doesn't put it past him to make a sneaky move sometimes, so she's careful (as in she implied she would attack him, but she said with a smile). ^ ^ By now I say he is one of her more valuable and irreplaceable friends.
Err, I have no idea what to call them. Friends/comrades who have been with each other for some time. XP
Kanda = Allen
My view on Kanda's and Allen's relationship is that of one that reminds me of a dog and cat who on the surface seem to just can't be able to get over their predujice of one another. They bicker like hens and offer very different views on how one should see the world and do the job. Allen's a person who goes out of his way to meet the needs of others, while Kanda's a person who just wants to go out do his job and meditate in his room with mugen nearby. On the surface they couldn't be any more different with snapping and not agreeing on the others view point, but ultimately their both more similar than either would ever care to admit as both can be stubborn and hyporcritical in what they do and say.
Allen I feel clashes with Kanda not just because he's a jerk, but also because I think he might see a bit of himself or at least his old self in Kanda. When we see Allen and Mana's first real meeting you see that Allen has a little Kanda-ish spin with his attitude and doesn't seem to eager with people compared to how he is now. Allen (usually Mr. Non-confrontational) perhaps feels the need to clash with Kanda instead of dropping it because it's like arguing with his past self whom he seems to feel no love for and wants to prove something to.
Kanda I think clashes with Allen because Allen just has to bang against his little iron wall of stability and knock him off balance with his way of adding the human element to practically everything. This, I think aggravates Kanda to no end. I have no idea about his past, but I get the impression that whatever happened messed him up to the point of not wanting anything to do with human warmth. He's a soldier on a mission and doesn't want anything to distract him. In this way you could say he's a bit of a coward. He gets angry when people show care about him like with Tiedoll and certainly does try the extra push to get people to back away from him. It's almost as if he's scared/bothered by acknowledging attachment to people, though I believe there are those he cares for. Kanda just wants to see things the way he views them and count on others to let him while Allen doesn't show much consideration for this and pushes his buttons without even trying by just being himself around him.
But they don't hate eachother, if they did they'd do their best to ignore the other completely. It's kind of funny actually, ususally in stories like these they'd be rivals, but that's a word that doesn't really fit their bond at all. They don't use the other as motivation for getting physical stronger such as the cliche, they actually instead they focus in on eachother and argue the way two obnoxious brothers who won't back down just cause do.
Allen of course cares and trusts Kanda like he does his other friends, actually it's funny that Kanda is the one of the group that naturally brings out the more devilish Allen that may be more true to his own personality. Kanda actually does care about Allen as well, at the very least trust him. It's not just supporting him by saving his life even when he says he wouldn't earlier, noticing his despair over Lala and trying to cheer him up in his own way, but Kanda actually still accepts Allen for Allen even after he is revealed to be a noah. He treats him the same as he would before and still trusts Allen to watch his back in battle. Even when the 14th surfaced and Kanda took a shot to his head, instead of keep attacking him like orders had suggsted he should if this would happen, Kanda instead called out to Allen and apparently had faith in Allen enough to snap back to his self to finish off the level 4.
So there is bickering, loads of tension, and just plain genuine dislike. But there is also a level of trust/faith that exists between the two that kind of reminds me of one I would find between Brothers in Arms. All in all, I'm surpised when I encounter people who think neither care at all about the other.
Lavi = Kanda
These two are kind of funny actually. In fact I don't really even think about their relationship much, but it's amusing how much Lavi can get away with his antics. Kanda actually puts up with and shows some respect to Lavi in ways others don't. Kanda, as much as he insults him, treats Lavi as an equal. He trusts Lavi to watch his back in the heat of battle even telling him when he doesn't have to put himself in danger like that. Lavi actaully get's special treatment when Kanda get's drunk one time (in the novels) and doesn't mistreat Lavi no matter what he does to him (the same can't be said for Allen or Komui). Sure he does threaten him (infact he nearly did when they first met) on average, but Lavi's got pretty good survival instincs so he dodges when he's in bunny mode.
Lavi's relationship to him is a little more vauge for me, I used to think of them drinking buddies (I have no idea, it just seemed to work) but Kanda ruined that for me when he showed he couldn't hold his liquor to save face. Kanda is one of the few people that is most important to Lavi at the Order, When he was dreaming inside Road's world Kanda was among the three who stabbed him, making me believe Kanda is one of the few who can affect Lavi personaly. He likes to hang with him despite the danger Kanda throws at him and I think of them as comrades that can get along in a certain understanding of how the other works at the least.
Allen = Lenalee
These two are pretty relaxing for me. While there can be some tension in their relationship with Lenalee worrying about Allen so much about both outside and inside forces (being him), overall they get along really well.
Lenalee is the one who wants to reach out to Allen and assure him of her care the most out of all his friends. She wishes he could be more informal to her, but respects his choices in how he responds. They both are comfortable with eahc other and Lenalee actually opens up to Allen with her deepest emotions in ways she rarely does with any one else showing how much trust and acceptance she has for him in her life. She knows he has problems but sees him as a pillar of strength with the way he handles them in front of others and takes inspiration from him to be stronger herself.
Infact even when it was thought Allen was gone forever she decided to stay firm in conviction that he would return someday to their side. If you know Lenalee this was a huge leap for the girl at the time who had more faith in death then life from the horrors she's seen. This was a lot a faith and trust she put in him and he did repay it by proving it correct.
Allen sees Lenalee as an equal in both the battle field and daily life. He's very good at balancing her strength and her emotional sides by reacting to them naturally. He readily comforts her when she seeks him out but never thinks she is weak or in need of over-protection. She is comrade and a woman who is strong and there for him, but also needs to feel security as well. He understands just how she loves him and the rest of her friends/family and she is the first one at the Order to make him understand the consequences of his death on others instead of plunging into situations that almost get himself killed without thinking more straight first (well as much as he can). XD
Both can be very in-synch with each other. They can react in battle to each others movements without the need to speak of it out loud and still end complimenting the others moves quite nicely.
These two are really close, they may even have something more then friendship for each other, but whatever the case neither are interested in moving to the next level prefering to be friends for now. They also got some funky Innocence/dream connection, but we know nothing of what that means for now.
If I could call them anything, I'd probably say best friends. Out of all the people they know in the Order they probably are the closest to each other from a fans view (this is exluding Komui and Cross).
Kanda = Lenalee
They've known each other for a really long time. Longer than any of the OT4. Both actually get along rather well, and that might come from knowing each other for so long.
Kanda cares about her, he doesn't suddenly act any different around her then any one else he's close to. But he does reach out to her in his own way when she feels down. He shows understanding when she feels troubled about herself and bluntly admits to her of his confidence in her strength, something he would never have done like that for Allen or Lavi. He knows she can get scared and camly always shelters her in his private room when she comes to him. But as said before he acknowledges her strength as both a person and soldier.
Lenalee knows Kanda. She knows his faults but also knows he isn't as bad as most think and has about near absolute zero fear of him ever hurting her. Which has saved the lives of both Lavi and Allen when she had to intervene during their first meeting with Kanda. He is one of the few people she trusts enough to show her vulnerable side to and seeks his presence out when people such as Leveirre (who is pretty much the real devil as far as she's concerned)come to the Order. She also trusts his word/strength almost unconditionaly, when he said she's strong she takes comfort in that, when he says he'll stay alive and meet with them again she takes it with smile in belief.
Both grew up as soldiers, they know this life style and have a quiet understanding and acceptance for how the other ticks in ways very few can. I think it's cute how they both meditate together or implied how Kanda was the one who probably taught her considering the year he joined was the same as when she learned. Kanda was probably a brother to her in a time when Komui was unable to be. I'd probably call them childhood soldier companions.
Allen = Lavi
I kind of like the development these two have had, at least from Lavi's side more so. At first Allen didn't click with Lavi at all and Lavi thought Allen was just a brat. But Allen gave into acceptance as a friend after Lavi kind of taught him a valuable dose of reality and Lavi, well during the Krory Recruit Arc I remember him giving Allen this, really thought/amazed look. From then on I considered it the real start of their friendship where as before Lavi was only pretending.
Allen is one of the main reasons Lavi doubts his want to stay neutral throughout his time knowing him. Allen is also the first "death" in the story that Lavi could not shake off as meaningless. He's lost people who have made him feel differently before, Doug for example, but Allen was the first human to show so much, I guess, humanity to everything in a world that discourages things such as that and that affected someone like Lavi who once thought himself better and others not worth anything from him. I suppose you could even say Lavi looks up to Allen in a way for his strength, thinking him something dazzling he didn't want to go away. Allen naturaly brings out a genuine sincerity in the actor Lavi and it's when Lavi is most furious we've seen in him it's because of losing Allen to Tykki and a inability to forget that until it's confirmed Allen's alive. All in all, I think Allen was the one who helped made Lavi realise not only couldn't he ignore his own heart, but that having one wasn't so bad either.
Despite how annoyed Lavi can make him and how little he knows about him (from our view), Allen is more or less fond of him and accepts him as one of his closest friends. He's not always respectful to Lavi (not that Lavi seems to care that much) but he can interact with him in a playful manner and trusts in his ability in battle to support him enough. He's also gone to great lengths to protect Lavi and even show a absolute refusal at all to hurt him when both were forced to fight by Road.
It's kind of funny, but both seem to regard the other almost as a little brother. Lavi of course he's older and feels responsible almost for him, Allen because he sees Lavi as more childish and I wouldn't be surpised if at times he forget Lavi is the older one. XP
Phew done, ...
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