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Just some thoughts about Road

I just realized something, while thinking about the last novel. It may not be much, but I'd still like to share to know your opinions. It's not really a theory, just some thoughts about certain things that keep bugging me.

I haven't read the novel, of course, only the summaries offered by kind

leafyaki, but though it wasn't directly stated anywhere, I think it's strongly implied that the 14th's full human name was “Allen Walker.” Even if it wasn't, I think it's reasonably safe to assume that it's not just some random name crazy!Mana loved and gave to children/pets he liked, and it's most certainly related to the 14th, the Noahs and the main plot.

There is definitively something strange with the Earl and Mana, so strange I won't even try to make a theory out of it. What is sure is that his memories on the matter are a little foggy, and judging from his behavior I think we can say he doesn't or at least didn't remember the name's (possible) importance.

Still.

Look at this.

Did Road REALLY think there was nothing strange at all with an Exorcist named “Allen Walker” that can see akuma? Really?
Maybe she even knew his “father's” name, which I think the Earl knew and possibly told her (on higher quality scans you can actually read “Mana Walker” on the cross), and I would assume that she knew Mana's weird story at least to some extent.

She is the only Noah who survived the 14th, and apparently the only one to actually remember everything (except, maybe, Wisely). I daresay that she's one if not the most well-informed character in the whole series. She even seems to know why Tyki looks like the 14th (or like a younger Mana?), and she wants to keep it a secret for some reason.

She is not as childish as she first seemed to be, at all, and I think that even when she's being sadistic she has a more detached view over the situation than, say, Tyki. As if she perfectly knew what she was doing. If you ask me, she may enjoy being cruel, but most of the time she has an actual purpose for being so, too.

Back to Rewinding Town. Lero said he didn't know why she was there. Apparently she didn't tell the Earl or anybody else, just like she and Tyki didn't tell the Earl about their little game with the Exorcists while the Ark was being “downloaded.”

Surely Allen, Lenalee and Miranda weren't enough of a threat at the time, and she could have easily killed one of them if that was her goal. And yes, I first thought she might have been there just out of boredom, but she's smarter than that and isn't it too much of a coincidence? Of all Noahs, of all Exorcists, of all the places in the world?

What's more, all she did there in the end was dressing up Lenalee, nailing Miranda on her own clock, and, well, meeting Allen and stabbing his left eye with a candle. Which evolved some chapters later (“The darkness has returned…”) and seems to be connected to his Noah's form, somehow, as we saw from the last few chapters.

What if she went there just to, you know, make the Noah wake up faster, somehow? She seems to be very loyal to the Earl, and yet why did the 14th spare her? What if Neah really doesn't want to hurt the Earl? Obvious questions are too much obvious?

I think there were even some crack theories about what she might have done to Lenalee while she and Allen were unconscious, since she began having those weird and still unexplained dreams (connected to Allen and partially to the 14th, even) shortly after that, and Road is the Noah of Dreams – but really, I won't venture in there yet because it's just confusing and I haven't much to offer aside from some suspicious covers and “durr durr sometimes they wear the same clothes but in reverse colors durr.”

… Okay, I don't know. She looked surprised when Allen's sword turned out just like the Earl's, so maybe she really doesn't know anything. But. But still.

I'm aware this doesn't make a lot of sense, nor it adds anything significant to what we know, and I know I'm reading way too much in far too few pages, but we've known Road for so long and she's still such a mysterious character…

Does someone have any good theory about her? D: I'd like to read them.

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Road having something to do with Lenalee's nightmare is a plausible theory, and I do get the impression that she knows more than she lets on, but I can't agree about the 14th's name. I'll keep this hidden, since I know not everyone follows the online chapters, but in chapter 198 he says his name is "Neah". (or "Nea", I guess, depending on what scanlation you read.)
Also, the impression I got from the summary was that Mana thought Allen was his dog. And Road did say that the Earl had told her about Allen; so there would have been no reason for her to show any surprise in the town, since it sounds like she went to that town to meet him.

Oh frack, the hiding thing didn't work. :(

Strange, in my mail box the hiding worked D: I'll add the tag spoilers just in case.

Uh, I know that he said his name was Neah, but maybe he was referring to his Noah's name, like Joyed is the name of the Noah of Pleasure whose human is Tyki Mikk.

Also, the impression I got from the summary was that Mana thought Allen was his dog.

Yes, but Cross asked him if his name was Allen. Why all this fuss about a dog's name? :/

Uh, I know that he said his name was Neah, but maybe he was referring to his Noah's name

That could be the case, I suppose. I just never really thought he'd have one of those, since his existence as a Noah was kind of a freak accident and all. XD

Yes, but Cross asked him if his name was Allen. Why all this fuss about a dog's name? :/

To be completely honest, I have no real theories as to why Cross asked that. The most I can come up with is that Cross was stalking Mana closely enough to know he had a traveling companion named Allen, but not closely enough to know it was a dog.
I wonder if the full novel would have any insight into that. -really, really wants to read it- XD

I was going to say that “Neah” doesn't sound like a real name, but then I thought that it's D.Gray-man we're talking about, after all… xD

Ah, I wonder if the whole "Call me Allen" from the dream in chapter 184 is related to this… I have honestly no idea, but hopefully we'll find out sooner or later :D

The Cross thing is random, isn't it? The more I try to understand what happened the more my head huuurts. Dx
I would also like to know how did he know that it was Allen-the-child who had the 14th – was that ever explained?

FFFFFF, hahaha, yeah. XD I mean seriously, Alma Karma? XD I think I actually face-palmed when I first saw that. XD

Wow, haha, I'd completely forgotten about that dream. XD It very well could be. XD

You are not alone with the Cross-induced Brain-pain. XD
No, I don't think that ever was explained. Maybe he noticed something while stalking Mana (maybe he started stalking Mana better after Mana took in Allen-the-child?), or maybe while Allen-the-child was apprenticing with him. @_@ ....... Oh wait! I just remembered, there was that scene with Allen and Mana making the code that wound up being the symbols on the score! Maybe Cross saw that! 8D

Personally, I have to say that “Noise Marie” is one of my all-time favourites. xD But really, isn't it great to read a character's name without having a clue about which is the last name?

Gosh, those dreams are the most. Confusing. Thing. Ever.

Damn Cross. He could have been a little less cryptic. xD
No, I don't think he could have started stalking Mana after he took Allen-the-child, because we even saw a glimpse of Timcanpy in that oooold chapter right before Cross' death.

I just remembered, there was that scene with Allen and Mana making the code that wound up being the symbols on the score! 8D

! I, I totally forgot that! D: You might be right! And that's how he knew for sure that he could play the piano – because he knew that Allen knew the score because he saw it. 8D Now we have only to wait, like, 30 chapters or so to know if it's true. But still.

Hahaha, oh you're right. XD I always refer to him as just "Marie", so I forget sometimes what his full name is. XD

I know! XD
(Oh yeah, it might not be relevant but ya know how Allen saw Lenalee's dream that one time? I was rereading recently and realized that he had that really relevant dream about Krory during the KomuvitanD/Zombie Arc, isn't that weird? o_O)

I don't think Cross is capable of that. XD
No, I don't think he could have started stalking Mana after he took Allen-the-child, because we even saw a glimpse of Timcanpy in that oooold chapter right before Cross' death.

Admittedly I was trying to be funny, but my sense of humor is kind of poor. XD I don't even know why I try to make jokes. XD
But yeah, I remember Timcanpy in the tree. (All ur tree are belong to Timcanpy.) XD

I forgot about it, too, 'til just now. XD
Judging by how Hoshino seems to like to keep us guessing about what's going on, I'd say more like 50 chapters. XD

(Ah ah, I read and re-read Allen and Lenalee's dreams and I still don't understand why the 14th would say “Can't let you do that” or something when Allen wants to go to Lenalee who is, uh, crying over his ded ded body. But maybe that was just metaphorical of his apparent death of the time, idk.

Oh God, I almost forgot the Zombie Arc had some not-socrack parts xD But yes. Crowley. I have _NO_ freaking idea whatsoever.
Will any of this ever make sense? XD)

Oops XDD Sorry, here it's late and I shouldn't do English conversations when I'm tired XD ANYWAY. (Someone should icon that!!one!)

Yeah… Sometimes I wonder how it was possible for her to make 200+ chapters, almost no fillers, telling us everything and NOTHING at the same time. BUT Cyril seems pretty curious, FINALLY, so maybe we'll get some Lavi-torture-porn and answers soon? 8DD

(I can't figure that out, either. ;-; Unless he had some real connection to her mind/dream whats-it, and going through the water would have been bad? Best thing I can come up with, since he shouldn't have known about Lena's dream. XD

Yeah, it is pretty easy to forget the srs partz of that arc, since it's so full of CRACK! XD
I hope it does someday. This series likes to break my brain. XD)

Don't worry about it. I already know I suck at making jokes, I just make them anyway. XD Oh, is English a second language for you?(Since you specified English conversations.) :D (FFFFFF, that would be an awesome icon. XD)

If D.Gray-Man had never existed, I'd have never thought it possible. XD
That would be awesome, but I hope Lavi doesn't end up too hurt. Choaji I'm neutral on, but OMG if something really terrible happened to Lavi... OoO

(Yes, but why should they have some special connection? I really don't believe in the heart-split-in-two theory, so what is it?
Oh, and I just remembered that after some chapters he wakes up because his eye is going crazy just as Lenalee is losing against Eshi and is drowing… No sense at all BD)

Yeah, second language, I'm Italian :D When I make a thread I read very carefully the first post, but then I get lazy and at the end I'm all ‘grammar what grammar’. Sadly xD

I kind of feel bad for Lavi. I mean, of all Noah Cyril? He's the creeper that creeps Tyki out. But I'm sure it's going to be fun ;D

(Oh god, that theory annoys the crap out of me. D: The only people I've seen go for that theory were people who wanted to justify their OTP in canon.
I do think that it may have something to do with the innocence, but not just between the two of them. We do have the Krory-dream to think about after all. XD My probably-not-right-anyway theory is that Allen is the heart, thus the connection to other innocence-users. XD I'm probably horribly wrong, though. XD
And his eye did it again at about the time the mass of Akuma arrived in Edo and Tyki sent the Level 3 through the Ark. I think any explanation for it was just left at "it's reacting to far away Akuma". Since it was never shown doing it again after Allen got his innocence back I don't think Hoshino's gonna bring it up again. :/)

I didn't even notice the grammar mistakes. XD

FFFFFFF, yeah. XD Although I think Fiddler might have him beat out for creepy what with that parasite-eyeball-tongue-thing. That thing's nightmare fuel level creepy. o_O; *shudders*

Admittedly it was the first thing that occurred to me as I was watching the anime and thought the plot was going to end around episode 101 or something, because it was the easiest (and slightly lame) theory P:
Then I thought something similar to what you said, which is that Lenalee was the Heart and so she could feel other Innocences and some of their users (in the ark she actually feels Allen's and Chaoji's Innocences) – but I don't think it's her after she went Crystal and had a fairly reasonable explanation to what happened to her. Lavi was skeptical about it and the Earl said the Heart is awake and conscious, and I trust him on this one. If I had to choose I'd be more inclined to say it's Komui – but I have no actual proof so let's leave it. After all the Heart was finally mentioned in canon again by the creeper of the month!
Anyway yeah, the whole dream connection must be something else. I have no idea what it could be.
Also, I don't think it's Allen because imho it would be a little too much: main character, 14th, possibly the most powerful and strangest Noah ever, can see akuma's souls and is the Heart? D:
Still, nothing of this explains the dreams and stuff e_e I'm not even sure Allen remembers them, so… yeah. IDK.

Really? XD I'm glad <3

Definitively nightmare fuel. I… cannot stop thinking about how he could pass his parasites to Lavi or anybody else. Does he have to, like, kiss them? Lick them in the ear or somewhere else? EWWWW XD And here I thought Road was creepy XD

Haha, yeah, the anime was kind of disappointing. XD
Oh yeah, I'd completely forgotten about that. I never really thought about that much. I just kind of assumed that raw innocence that was being synchronized with gave off a power that would be recognizable to someone who's been an exorcist as long as Lena. And Allen was giving off power bursts the Noah could feel, so for me that seemed kind of irrelevant to everything. XD
Yeah, that Cardinal guy is weird. The last chapter really makes it seem like the heart might not end up being one of the already introduced exorcists. :/
And, haha, yeah, I guess that might be my bias towards Allen showing itself a bit. ^^;
No, he definitely remembered the dream where the 14th grabbed his wrist. It was shown that he remembered it when he saw the 14th's shadow in the piano room mirror. Although we have no way to know if he remembered his dream about Krory. Hoshino is so very, very cruel. ;-;

XD

I would be seriously grossed out if tongue-contact was how he did it. x-x Maybe he spits the eyeballs and they explode with spore gas? I don't know if we're ever going to actually get to see him infect somebody. D:
Road has been out-creeped by two other Noah now. If she doesn't turn it up a notch she's gonna lose some serious creepy ground. XD

I've assumed his name was "Allen" ever since we found out the dog was named Allen and then he named his orphan Allen... XD It just seemed really suspicious. And "Neah", I believe, is his Noah name, like "Road" or "Wisely" or "Joyd".

Reasons why Road might not have recognized his name: "Walker" may have been an assumed name, and not Mana and his brother's original last name. It's entirely possible that the Noah don't care what his original name is, that the 14th, like Road, no longer bothered to go by his human name and so no one (except maybe the Earl) knew it. There's also no reason to think that crazy Mana Walker, who named dogs after his brother, wasn't -- well -- just plain bonkers, naming this kid after his brother as well, and the only significance is that he's involved with someone who's related to the 14th.

I don't think there's any real reason to imply that she knew about Allen when the Earl didn't; I think maybe she's been drawn to him for a number of reasons and never put things together.

One thing that's a bit of a flaw in the "Allen Walker is the 14th's human name" theory is this dream, where Allen dreams of the 14th calling him by someone else's name... When I saw that, I said, "Maybe not 'Allen'" but it doesn't make any sense that Mana and Cross would attach this much significance to a name that isn't the 14th's, so maybe Allen was just hearing "Neah" and being confused?

sob confusing manga is confusing.

I still think she must have known about Mana, and that at least when it was over she knew that he used “Walker” as a last name. Didn't Cross say Mana and his brother had been on the run from the Earl after the 14th killed almost everybody? Since she didn't die I think she helped him to track them down or whatever. So she had to know what their “new” names were – I suppose? D: Eh, I guess knowing how they both died might help a little.

I'm not saying that she had to know for sure that Allen was the 14th, but that she should have found (and maybe she did and made something about it, because the 14th is dangerous… apparently) it a little suspicious, to say the least. Allen was not a simple human from the beginning; he was an Exorcist, and he was able to see akuma because of his dead stepfather who looked exactly like the Earl, to say the least. Isn't it, well, strange?

The Earl said specifically that he doesn't remember what happened back then, when he didn't kill Allen upon Mana's grave. Road, on the other hand, doesn't seem ‘damaged’ at all, so I thought that if there was someone who knew was going on, it had to be her.

so maybe Allen was just hearing "Neah" and being confused?

That's what I thought. Or, at first I thought that maybe the voice (is it really the 14th?) was calling his true name, but since he doesn't even know it I think he was just hearing “Neah” or something. THOUGH now that I think about it there were, like, five asterisks? Isn't Neah a bit too short…?

Some scanlations have three circles instead of five asterisks:

http://www.mangareader.net/210-15275-6/dgray-man/chapter-184.html

If it really is three circles in the raw, it would fit "Nea" perfectly.

Ah, I do have the raw of that chapter: three circles.

Definitively Nea. It just makes sense. :)

I've assumed his name was "Allen" ever since we found out the dog was named Allen and then he named his orphan Allen...

There is a theory I saw somewhere that Allen is an anagram of "Nea II". Can't say if it's true or not, but it might be possible.

… Intersting. I'm not 100% sure it is so, but it might be.

Ack, so many possibilities DDD:

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