I love Lavi, You Love Lavi but...

[animalboything.livejournal.com]

... does anyone think Lavi was Gary Stu'd a bit? Same as Lenalee was Mary Sue'd?

Don't get me wrong - I both love those characters immensely, but that's been bugging me for a bit. I mean, I love how powerful they are but...

Well, what do you guys think?

Note: This is brought to you by general inquiry of others thoughts, not Wank-anonymous.


Oh and totally irrelevant but is it worth spending the money for a stupid paid account so I can add me some DGM icons as I can't delete what I have now (I mean, Bjork and P.Diddy can never leave EVAR!!!). Has anyone done something like this?

Comments

[fidchell.livejournal.com]

I think the issue with Lenalee is that lately, she is almost completely missing from non-combat situations. Before, most of her emotional and character-developing moments were from interactions with Allen, Komui and other characters. But in most recent scenes, she appears as a background character and vanishes in the crowd, only to reappear in combat sequences.

Because Lenalee is a character who originally had balanced screentime, she seriously suffers now that she barely appears as a human being and mostly shown as a fighter.

Personally, I feel Hoshino Katsura is rushing from fight scene to fight scene too much lately. She should relax and give us severl chapters with nothing but socializing. The way it is, it feels like the distance between characters is growing because they never get to sort out their feelings, and it becomes harder to see them as good characters because we're barely shown any sides of them as people.

[attaining.livejournal.com]

Agreed on both Rinali and the fight scenes!

Although, even when Rinali regained her dark boots, she still required Allen and Cross's help to defeat the Lvl 4. On top of that, she required Allen's help despite his inability to move and he came through. That is hardly the perfection we expect from a Sue.

[animalboything.livejournal.com]

I admit, though, I'm a boyslut for fight scenes. D: But I also agree that there could have been more pause and finesse. You never know what's Hoshino's plan vs. production plan.

[fidchell.livejournal.com]

I thought the Level 4 fight was amazing in that it had everyone come out and team up in an attempt to take it down, including characters who were only good for target practice. Kanda and Lavi didn't have their Innocence, while Komui and River were never combat-capable, but they still went out and tried to get their shot at the thing.

Most of the recent fights were one Exorcist vs. Noah/Level 3, so I missed the essence of teamwork and "We're stuck in this together." that the Level 4 carried. It's something we haven't seen since the first half of Jasdero battle, so it was really refreshing.

It was an important fight for Lenalee, sure, but it wasn't about her. Everyone was affected on a very deep level. She was merely one of the crowd.

[attaining.livejournal.com]

I definitely agree! I was really happy with the way the Lvl 4 fight turned out. It was nice to see teamwork rather than one individual saving the day. The manga had been missing that element for a while now. For me, the manga is always best when it's showing how this unfortunate situation brought them together rather than forced them apart.

[erewhile.livejournal.com]

I have to agree with most of what you said. Although I did think the encounter with the level 4 was done well, I really do wish that they would do some more. Introspective stuff. But... not Linali crying or being nostalgic, ugh, I feel like that was way too commonplace lately when they were just talking. I want to see some other characters mulling over the past now. D: