ext_366203 ([identity profile] rheoster.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] dgray_man2008-07-16 11:00 pm

Chapter 167 (SPOILERS)

Stumbled across the information from Japanese blogs and 2ch, apparently this week's chapter is out early!

Chapter 167 Ange (Angel)

This is based on my crappy Japanese:

- Continuing from the last chapter, Allen was still stunned at the revelation. Cross slapped him out of it. 
- Allen asked Cross when was the 14th's memories implanted into him, and Cross's answer (guess?) was "probably before the 14th died". Apparently even Cross did not know the details, and Allen was not amused.
- The 14th wanted to kill the Earl, and as a result, he and Mana fled from the Noahs. The 14th and the Noahs tried to kill each other.
- For the 14th, "when" and "who" did not matter, Allen (who happened to be nearby) was chosen to be the vessel by pure chance.
- Cross broke the bad news: The 14th's memories would gradually invade the host, and Allen would eventually turned into the 14th.
- Allen wondered... did Mana really love him? Or was 14th the one Mana loved?
- According to Cross, Mana began acting strange since the day the 14th died. Cross could not tell if Mana had lost some of his memories or not.
- Cross gave Allen a hug ;_; (while complaining that from now on he could not make fun of Tiedoll for mother-henning his students)
- Cross dropped the bomb: "So what would you do if I tell you, that when you become the 14th, you will have to kill your important person/people?"
- Linali and Johnny fell asleep while waiting for Allen. Linali woke up and saw Allen's swollen face, but Allen told her he was okay with a forced smile. Linali noticed his dark expression, but Allen said, "It was nothing." <- Allen was using the polite form of speech with Linali...

Oh Allen.

[identity profile] artificialluck.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
Cross gave Allen a hug

;_;

[identity profile] attaining.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
;____; I can always count on this manga for the depressing revelations.

Thanks for the summary!

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[identity profile] nightcoffeebean.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
Listening to the Musician's Score while reading this= very bad idea
But what does Cross mean by killing your important person/people?

[identity profile] cyanideteacup.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
I think it has to do with the fact if the 14th is revived "Allen" won't be there any longer. Thus leaving only the Noah who may or may not be hunted by the Order.

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[identity profile] accented.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
Allen needs so much more than a hug from Cross right now. D:

[identity profile] nairin.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
oh man
poor, poor Allen ;A;

[identity profile] kalium-kx.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
Cross could not tell if Mana had lost some of his memories or not.
- Cross gave Allen a hug ;_;


I wonder if Mana screwed up the memory implanting into allen by passing some of his own or destroying them or doing so knowingly to start a new life to forget the 14th and start life anew with allen..

If you guys recall correctly the 14th was against the Noah and wanted to kill the earl..so this noah thing can't be all bad since these are in line with allen's goals after all

[identity profile] masqueer11.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
It could be. We still don't know why the Earl wanted to destroy the world. Yes, the 14th was against the Noah but why, we'll have to find out later I guess.

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[identity profile] masqueer11.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
Pardon my language but FUCK, I KNEW IT!!!!

Something bad's gonna happen. Oh Allen! *huggles*

But Cross...Cross hugging Allen 0______________________0

Ooohhh, calm down!

[identity profile] signrain.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Is the earl..important for 14th..so he wanted to kill earl -_-'
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[identity profile] crisyah.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, I need time to let this sink in, again XD (I'm saying that a whole lot about this manga lately XP)

But I'm glad this is bringing more problems instead of going into Gary-Stu-Super-Powered-Noah-Exorcist-Allen... My trust in Hoshino pays off yet again!

...But I'm not glad, GLAD! Because... Poor Allen ;-; Doubting whether the only father he ever knew and the person for whom he always continued on forwards actually loved him or what he saw of the 14th, having to face the most likely deterioration of his self, being turned into a NOAH ('cause although they're still kinda human and Allen was willing to save Tyki, he also knows how insane/sadistic/evil they can be...), the possibility of hurting his friends, everyone's suspicions... And he's already distancing himself from the others... I REALLY don't want to think about what will happen to the Allen we all know and love and what consequences this will have in his relationships with everyone...

He needs WAY more than a hug from Cross. Maybe everyone (fans included XP) should line up and give him hugs/kisses/food! Though I doubt any of that will help...

[identity profile] animalboything.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Really loving where the story is going and, though this is speculation, when Cross talked about killing "that person" did anyone else beside me think, possibly, Kanda as Kanda "can't die until he finds -that person-"?

[identity profile] selvatori.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
That's a new spotlight! =D oh how I want THAT to come true!!! *will have her fangirly moments*

oh and bless Cross! I never knew he actually cared! :3

[identity profile] clueless-quark.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh wow. I think I can visualize the multiple chapters of angst approaching. Hope Hoshino will not make Allen choose between killing off some of the exorcists (or miraculously resurrected!Mana) or, eh... something. The whole Allen!14th-by-chance plot turn was a huge surprise to me because I've always thought that Mana was the 14. And Allen is just cool by default, not because he's a Noah... OMG, this is still so bizarre. Oh Hoshino-sensei, why do you choose to torture us so. :)

[identity profile] selvatori.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
"Oh Hoshino-sensei, why do you choose to torture us so."

not that we don't like it! *wink*

[identity profile] vanehei.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
the thing is.. maybe Allen will ask Lavi to kill him if he notice that Allen its becoming a Noah..(Since Lavi and Cross are the only ones who know the secret). Im sure that there will be some kind of promise between those guys...
And yes, poor Allen...

[identity profile] kagnomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-19 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
WOAH. I just realized Lavi was still in the room. Now I feel bad that he didn't give Allen a hug too.

[identity profile] cattheterrible.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder how Allen's sword will tie into this. It has at least some effect on Noah, but after what happened to Tyki, exactly what effect is unclear.

Even so, poor Allen. ;_; Would have been nice if Cross pointed this out before he made a ton of friends!

My prediction is an angstfest, followed by either Allen or Lavi spilling the beans, and Lenalee beating some sense into Allen to make him stop distancing himself.

[identity profile] kariavalon.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man... I can somehow feel signs of a angstfest coming up too. =\
This definitely surprised me, well, this chapter more because this questions the beliefs Allen chose to follow (at least that's what I want to think, though there are opportunities where it could have been the agenda of the 14th...).

Gah! Allen... and as much as distancing is a instinct alongside his selflessness... I can see a lot of tumult from the Order and then.. and then.. some division miight be formed. @__@; Oh man...

Mmm... although Mana's love is questionable... didn't Mana and Allen make up their own language (and didn't that coincide with the keys of the Musician's Score)? I wonder.. would that be seen as a tangible sign of love or would that be another presented object of proof of Mana's lingering affection for the 14th? @__@;...

[identity profile] cattheterrible.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Who knows if they even made it up? It could have been something Mana and the 14th made up together, that Mana taught Allen.

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[identity profile] konrankoneko.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
*cries in her corner of woe* Teh sorrowz.

Damn, poor Allen. Ah, the series shall delve into it's angst self now.

Omg, Cross HUGS him. O_O Proof he has a heart, and cares about Allen at least a bit! (ROFL, he really can't complain about it anymore~ XD)

[identity profile] cattheterrible.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Also, proof that Allen is well and truly screwed. :D

[identity profile] twitchy-plink.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Someone on mangahelpers took pictures of this chapter and posted it. If anyone's interested it's here: http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34825&page=2

[identity profile] kariavalon.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I appreciate it~

The way the chapter spreads.. and it being christened as "Angel"... wow.

I cannot comprehend my feelings into words.. but I do hope for the best for Allen. ;__;

[identity profile] criaze.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Just finished reading the update. Cross' hug is a total win.
And I was still confused at first. I thought Mana is the 14th. LOL

So Mana implanted 14th's memory to poor Allen. Why's our cute protagonist always being bullied that much guuh. *Good thing Kanda's not around, for the moment*

Still. Sob for this chapter T__T

[identity profile] kagnomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-19 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
This chapter broke my heart.

[identity profile] kalium-kx.livejournal.com 2008-07-19 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
I think the 14th was the clown allen met..and his innocence took the form of one for a reason i believe..thus when the crown clown possesses him..i think it;s actually the 14th..

This could mean there could be a chance that the Noah and Innocence could live side by side in allen..even allen as a human form and 14th as a noah form? That could even be a message to the ending where the noah and exorcist fight side by side to fight the final incoming threat for an epic ending