ext_304022 ([identity profile] comiter.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] dgray_man2008-03-26 02:34 am
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.... Licensed?

Okay, so a friend of mine was watching a con panel with Greg Ayres about fansubs and he's talking to some guy about working on Death Note and at about 1:05-1:07, a guy mentions that he's "in D.Gray-man". So, I'm guessing Viz got the anime or something? Unless our hearing is off, this is leaked news. xD If so, it means they're good at keeping secrets.

[identity profile] quatrina.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. T____T The end is nigh. D: *really hopes this is not true, even though it's pretty much an inevitability* >__>
Edited 2008-03-26 12:06 (UTC)

[identity profile] angathol.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
The manga's already licensed, what's the big deal about an anime license?

[identity profile] quatrina.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Because then if it gets picked up by CN or something the fandom becomes inundated with fanbrats who think Komui really did destroy Paris with a giant mecha and Lulubell showed up several arcs early with an annoying lesbian maid.

Okay, so I'm an elitist bitch who bullied my friend who got into the series with the anime into going back and reading the manga because it's a lot less stupid. But I maintain that fandoms do only get worse when they become more mainstream.

[identity profile] septimal.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's always exciting that a beloved fandom will finally be available somewhat 'closer to home,' as I see it...but I understand the concern that it will draw people that receive it wrongly (or maybe in a different manner that we feel is wrong). Hopefully the new fans who discover the fandom via television, etc. will find that the manga is even better than what they've already enjoyed in video.

Nonetheless, I never really did get into the anime itself. I think I stopped around Episode 12~13 for lack of time or interest to watch. But I hear the episodes of late have been much improved, so I'm tempted to give into this slight motivation to finally catch up and start watching...

teal deer alert!

[identity profile] blueshimmer.livejournal.com 2008-03-27 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
But I hear the episodes of late have been much improved

Oh the episodes of late have been nothing short of EPIC! Season Three is so unbelievably badass it'll make your head spin. Episodes 72-75 are probably the most amazing episodes of any anime I think I've ever seen. The filler they throw into the episodes to pad them for time actually WORK with the canon remarkably -- fights are drawn out, and a few things are clearer.

Hell, Allen's fight with the Earl after he's achieved Crown Clown (when he saves Lenalee from the Earl when she's trapped in the crystal) is actually BETTER than the manga, in my opinion, because the manga made the fight end rather abruptly. The anime draws the fight out for about five minutes or so, and you get to see that for all that he looks like a bloated doll, the Earl can still FIGHT.

If you quit around episode 13, then you only barely got to see Lavi in action. Such a pity, because he's really, really well rendered in the show, and his voice actor is AWESOME.

Also, you should watch Episode 18 ("Lenalee no Koi"). It's pure crack filler, but it is a goddamn riot -- I think it's even better than Episode 8 (which is canon humor).

Some of the filler is ridiculous (Akuma ship?!) and some of it is based on the novels (like the Person Who Sells Souls, and the Village of the Witch, or whatever) and some of it is annoying (er, I liked the interactions of the Exorcists in the whole Lulubell arc, but goddamn they sure got made into idiots by a lazy Noah and a neurotic Level Two. If you're kinda a canon purist, that arc -- eps 40 through 50 -- will be painful) There are a number of mostly-filler episodes that have some canon scenes, and the Daisya Barry episodes provided a rather intriguing glimpse into his character. I came to love Daisya because of the anime.

If you want to dive straight into the canon awesomeness, Season Three starts episode 51 (the third OP starts the next ep)

Re: teal deer alert!

[identity profile] septimal.livejournal.com 2008-03-28 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
See, that was the other thing. I wasn't sure if I were to start watching again if I should jump in where I left off or begin with the good, new material. From what you've said though (and thanks so much for writing it - I read it all :3) it all sounds great!

I think I'd probably just start watching Season Three and then play catch-up in the summer or some other time.

Re: teal deer alert!

[identity profile] blueshimmer.livejournal.com 2008-03-28 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
That'll work. Watch the awesome stuff now, and then use the less-awesome stuff to tide you over in between awesome episode releases. That's kinda what I did.

Now that the Anime has gotten to Kanda's fight with Skinn Boric inside the Ark, it's full-steam-ahead to AWESOMESAUCE.

ALSO!! There are omakes starting about ep 51 or 52 at the tail end of each episode. They are almost all hilarious (except the one commemorating Suman Dark; it's not meant to be funny). One of my favorites is when the cast play cards (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trVbHYUCZdA&feature=related) (most of the omakes aren't that long, most are about ten seconds long, but the longer ones are great too.)

[identity profile] kaiamara.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you on this, I'm sure many don't want fanbrats like that in the fandom. Plus it would get annoying if you randomly heard something like that at school or in the middle of the street.

[identity profile] vicious-timmy.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I heard "Death Note" not "D.Gray-man" around that time.

[identity profile] septimal.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
edit; Hmm...I listened to it three times again, and now I can't decide.

I guess we'll see!
Edited 2008-03-26 17:38 (UTC)

[identity profile] crimsonspiral.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it sounded more like:

-"May or may not be in Death Note at some point."
-"He'll probably be in D.Gray-man."

It's kinda hard to tell with the voice that says it being so soft and distant.

[identity profile] ketchupblood.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
a;fsdlkja That's what I heard too.

[identity profile] karleen-tea.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what I hear, too. And I think they're talking about this guy (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0171162/). I don't actually know anything about him, but I'm hearing the name Michael Coleman...

[identity profile] kaiamara.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what was said, I turned my sound up and put my ear to the speaker plus I have good hearing.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_metrime/ 2008-03-27 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I hear "he'll probably be in it, he's pretty good."

[identity profile] usagi-alchemist.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally off-topic but is that Anime Boston? 'Cause I swear I see one of my friends in the audience there.

[identity profile] sakuraxsyaoran.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The youtube link was posted on Nov. 3, 2007. Besides, if D.Gray-man was licensed, Viz would have send C&D letters to the fansubbers to tell them stop.

[identity profile] usagi-alchemist.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god, my friend has a doppelganger. O_o

The guy said "he'll probably be in D.Gray-Man", anyway. There's quite possibly an invisible "if/when it's licensed" there.
I agree with you that Viz would have sent cease-and-desist letters. And I'd like to look on the bright side for its possible future licensing; the anime serves as advertisement for the manga, right? ... But, because I am so very good at defeating my own arguments, I guess some people would watch it and not bother with the manga and I do have a certain amount of sympathy for the viewpoint that says lots of new and ignorant fans are not a good thing.

So the bottom line is I Don't Know if I think licensing is a good or a bad thing, and I don't think this video's really grounds for worry.

[identity profile] sakuraxsyaoran.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree; Viz will definitely licensed the anime some day since it does have a partnership with Shueisha. I think they are hinting about it since on the back of the manga, it stated something like "Now an animated series!".

I don't think that the video has enough plausible proof of its being licensed because why would Viz keep this info hidden from the public? They do need to make profit after all.

As for new and ignorant fans, the only thing I would do is ignore them and they would either learn or go away eventually when the next big thing arrives. ^^

[identity profile] usagi-alchemist.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
And it's another way for them to make money, especially as it seems to be growing quite popular.

I don't think it really has evidence, even. I think they're just aware of the likelihood that it will someday be licensed.

I'm kind of a fandom recluse, so I don't think it'd affect me much; for that reason, I shall reserve judgment and leave it to people to whom it really matters.

[identity profile] sakuraxsyaoran.livejournal.com 2008-03-27 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god, my friend has a doppelganger. O_o

I forgot to ask, but what do you mean by that comment? I am curious right now. ^^

[identity profile] sakuraxsyaoran.livejournal.com 2008-03-27 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought she meant the username or the icon I was using was similar to her friend since I have no idea what her friend looks like and I don't think she know what I look like either. ^^

[identity profile] usagi-alchemist.livejournal.com 2008-03-28 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
My friend who I thought I saw in the video has only gone to Anime Boston and one other con; ergo, the person in the video is her look-alike and not her.

The resemblance is striking enough to be really freaky.

[identity profile] sakuraxsyaoran.livejournal.com 2008-03-28 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Oh okay; gotcha. I was so confused by that comment. XD

[identity profile] nurissa.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not believing anything until I see a press release stating without doubt that the anime is licensed.

[identity profile] fleeting-infamy.livejournal.com 2008-03-26 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I don't think that they mentioned D.Gray-man [but I may have heard the guy wrong], it sounded like he was saying something else about Death Note.


But if Viz does license D.Gray-man I think that I'll have to claw my ears out. PLEEEEEASE NO! รถ

[identity profile] scrapingskies.livejournal.com 2008-03-27 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreeeee with [livejournal.com profile] quatrina T___T.

I have earphones on, and like a few others, I heard was a lighthearted "he'll probably be in 'Gray-Man." Sounds like something planned but not concrete.

If DGM ever gets licensed, though, what good dubbing companies are there? Funimation maybe? 9_9

[identity profile] blueshimmer.livejournal.com 2008-03-27 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't mind it getting licensed and sent over here -- then I can buy the episodes legally and enjoy them on my TV screen rather than just the computer screen. I'd love it best if it was a direct-to-DVD release, bypassing Cartoon Network, but I think they'd lose a lot of sales that way -- the fantards who watch Cartoon Network go out and buy shit.

I'd love to hear it dubbed, too -- I think it could be great. Viz has gotten really good at producing entertaining dubs

(Is it wrong of me to wish they'd cast David Kaye as Tyki Mikk? Cuz goddamn, I LOVE his voice.)

[identity profile] kuronekopirate.livejournal.com 2008-03-28 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Err....I happen to watch Naruto on Cartoon Network lulz (::is a 23 year-old Narutard::). If the anime does get licensed, I hope they'll show it on Adult Swim instead of regular CN (like Naruto is). If it's shown on Adult Swim it might have a chance of not being suck-tastic (is that even a word? O__o). I admit that I watch Bleach on AS as well, but that's only because I don't feel like buying 20+ volumes of the manga e____e. Anyways, I'd still watch the dubbed version of D.Gray and still buy the manga; I still watch Death Note on Adult Swim even though I know what will happen in the episodes because I've finished the manga >3