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It is pretty much obvious that D.Gray-Man's manga is reaching its end, especially taking in consideration what has taken place in the latest chapter and all the jazz that has been played so far.
Well, today, after overdosing myself with ice-cream to lose coherence to make some indecent fanfiction, I recalled a few things that took place long ago in the manga and tried to sort out some things of the recent chapter.
I recall that at some point of the manga, near the attack of the Headquarters and when the Akuma level 4 showed up, our adorable evil mustache man, Leverrier told Hevlaska she was a "kinslayer", that she had destroyed her own kin.
Was it mentioned how she killed them or why?
I recall as well that at Timothy's arch a level 4 akuma showed up. Weren't they rare and never existed one before? Why suddenly there were more?
In the spanish side of this fandom, long ago, a great fanfiction author said that it was obvious that the 14th was Allen and that he was going to steal the Earl's position. If anyone sees her, because she hasn't updated that much, ask her if she is not Hoshino or something. She guessed it last year, more or less in April.
Anyways, considering that Allen is "The destroyer of time" and that Kanda sees a clock, it might be possible that the loved person (if you are a fangirl of their pairing, love in a couple like way; if you are not a fangirl of that pairing, love in a friends like way) Allen might end killing will be Kanda.
But why does Kanda see lotus flowers everywhere? Do you have any theory about it? Is Alma trying to tell him something or is a side effect of being an experiment?
Although Cross was shot and presumed to be dead, his body was never found. There's a chance he might be alive. If he was alive, do you think he would show up afterwards in the upcoming chapters?
Also, if you have any theories about the latest chapter's late pages or the chapter overall it would be nice to hear them (I love theories <3).
And has anyone seen that robot that used to pop up every now and then at the beginning of the manga? I kind of miss that guy too.
My sincere apologies for all the grammatical horrors (awful language barriers) and the sheer amount of silliness
Well, today, after overdosing myself with ice-cream to lose coherence to make some indecent fanfiction, I recalled a few things that took place long ago in the manga and tried to sort out some things of the recent chapter.
I recall that at some point of the manga, near the attack of the Headquarters and when the Akuma level 4 showed up, our adorable evil mustache man, Leverrier told Hevlaska she was a "kinslayer", that she had destroyed her own kin.
Was it mentioned how she killed them or why?
I recall as well that at Timothy's arch a level 4 akuma showed up. Weren't they rare and never existed one before? Why suddenly there were more?
In the spanish side of this fandom, long ago, a great fanfiction author said that it was obvious that the 14th was Allen and that he was going to steal the Earl's position. If anyone sees her, because she hasn't updated that much, ask her if she is not Hoshino or something. She guessed it last year, more or less in April.
Anyways, considering that Allen is "The destroyer of time" and that Kanda sees a clock, it might be possible that the loved person (if you are a fangirl of their pairing, love in a couple like way; if you are not a fangirl of that pairing, love in a friends like way) Allen might end killing will be Kanda.
But why does Kanda see lotus flowers everywhere? Do you have any theory about it? Is Alma trying to tell him something or is a side effect of being an experiment?
Although Cross was shot and presumed to be dead, his body was never found. There's a chance he might be alive. If he was alive, do you think he would show up afterwards in the upcoming chapters?
Also, if you have any theories about the latest chapter's late pages or the chapter overall it would be nice to hear them (I love theories <3).
And has anyone seen that robot that used to pop up every now and then at the beginning of the manga? I kind of miss that guy too.
My sincere apologies for all the grammatical horrors (awful language barriers) and the sheer amount of silliness
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I don't believe it was ever mentioned how or why Hevlaska destroyed her own kin. I don't think that what exactly Hevlaska is (besides being some sort of Exorcist) has been revealed yet either. (feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken).
Hevlaska is so big and all, and she seems unable to move from that one spot... I wonder if it all began with some sort of several "little Hevlaska-like" beings... and then one of them absorbed the rest and grew and became Hevlaska? (does this even sound plausible? I'd never thought about Hevlaska before, I just came up with this right now...)
Considering the level 4s, and even level 3s and 2s, I think the whole thing is a bit strange. I mean, at the beginning of DGM, during the Doll arc, I think it was the first time the Exorcists met a level 2... or at least it was Allen's first time meeting one (again, correct me if I'm mistaken!) which is kinda weird: after all that travelling with Cross, all they found were Level 1s? Then Level 3s appeared, and everyone was in an uproar about how "oooh, Akumas with a higher level!" and then the whole thing with the level 4 akuma. How can all these new, higher levelled akumas only appear now if this war has been going on for such a really long time? How come they only start evolving now if akumas have existed for years?
To me, the only thing that could explain this would be if all the higher levelled akumas have been being kept in Japan, and so even level 4s have existed for a really long time, only no one has known about it. I guess it could explain how all of a sudden there are a bunch of level 4s that seem to have appeared out of nowhere.
wow, someone who guess about Allen and the 14th and the 14th's intentions?? wow.
Allen killing Kanda? Hmmm. I think that is possible, but not because of that theory. I support the whole [Millenium Earl = "time"] + [Allen="destroyer of time"] = [Allen kills Earl] theory... so if Allen happens to kill Kanda, it will be because the 14th considers Kanda a threat, or because Kanda goes berserk and tries to kill someone from the Order and Allen has to stop him.
After reading this new chapter, I still don't have a proper theory about Kanda and the tattoo and the lotus flowers...
First, I've always thought that Kanda (and more recently, Alma) were normal children the Order picked up and experimented on. Even when lots of people were going on about how Kanda was "an artificially created human" I still agreed with the people that believed that he was just a normal human with a bunch of experiments on top. After chap. 188, I began seriously doubting that conviction of mine, but after this new chapter 189 I think I'm back to believing he was a normal human child before the whole trouble with the Order. Then he was just "reborn" as Yuu Kanda, the Artificial Disciple.
Second, I'm not sure if Kanda sees that many lotuses all the time. Maybe it's just that one lotus in his room and then the amount of lotuses he sees depends on, I don't know, how close he is to Alma? Or on how close he is to places where he used to hang out with Alma (as in, he sees more lotuses when he's in the China branch or something...)? Or maybe the number of flowers he sees just varies randomly for no reason?
(...maybe I'm just trying to think of a possibility where Kanda doesn't see every surface around him covered in flowers because that would be depressing and I really don't want poor Kanda to have been suffering that all this time...)
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Now, after seeing Alma, Kanda said that's not him. While I keep hoping that he'll say something like, "I killed him, and his soul's gone, so even though that's his body, the Alma I knew is dead." there's also the possibility that he simply can't remember.
If that's the case, Rhode said something like, "is it because of that woman who made you cut him?"
So maybe (maybe! I'm not sure I like this theory...) that woman is the woman Kanda has been looking for, because she made him attack Alma, and maybe she's responsible for the tattoo and all the lotuses, and she also made him forget about Alma, but he still remembers her and that she did something to him, so Kanda's been looking for her all this time?
Another thing. About who Allen is supposed to kill when he becomes the 14th: I've always been wondering if the person (or people) that would be killed would be people who Allen himself loved (like, people from the Order, fellow Exorcists, someone from his past) or someone who the 14th, now using Allen, loved (and that would mean his Noah relatives). ...After this new chapter, I'm thinking both. If the 14th became the new Earl, he'd create akuma, I suppose? And those akuma would kill the Exorcists and people at the Order, no? And to become the Earl, he'd have to kill the Earl himself and probably quite a few of the other Noahs, no?
And I wonder... what are the 14th's motives to become the Earl? He wants power? He wants control? Or.... he wants to save the world? Since he'd be the one with the power to bring about the destruction of the world, he could choose not to do it and that would be it.
So far, I've always thought that the 14th is the real good guy of the story (if there is one... there's no such thing as a world of black and white; everything is varying shades of gray. It's a matter of whether people are darker or lighter) and both the Order and the Noahs are the bad guys. which would make the 14th's side the rumoured "3rd side of this war"... but now I'm sort of doubting that. Not because of what the 14th said about wanting to become the new Earl, but because of that crazed face he had when he said it. Looks a bit too insane to mean anything good, haha.
I think.... Cross is still alive. Somehow. And if he's still alive, then there's a reason for the whole thing, so he must show up at some point in later chapters.
The robot? You mean Komui's crazy Komurins? I think he's been too busy to worry about creating new versions of Komurin... even though that moment when Allen charms the Komurin into sacrificing itself for them shall forever remain of the most epic moments in DGM for me xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Allen's so sexy he can even seduce robots! xDDDDD
and, huh, guess that's all. if I had any of my facts mistaken, do correct me. and if any of my stupid ideas/theories don't make sense, just go ahead and tell me. xD
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She indeed guessed it but has been missing for a long while. I would have tocheck at Fanfiction.net, somewhere, I think at one of her fanfiction comments, she said "Allen is a noah and he will kill the Earl, that's what I think about this whole thing". And to think many opposed to her, she must either foresee things or have an amazing mind to put together all what was told so far.
For what I can recall she said it before July, when I had my winter break and started writing a crazy fanfic about Kanda being a Disney princess who hated it so damn much (must finish it or else >>).
It might be. Considering that all the akumas at Japan had "canibalistic" tendencies they might have long ago evolved into level 4 but were just kept there to "protect" the Earl and make things more difficult to the Order. It suits nicely what you said <3
It has always made me think what the lotus' petals actually meant. It was said that when the lotus flower withered and died Kanda would die as well, but when he died at the arch, did something happen to Alma? it was said that they were connected and to me it seems to be that the connection was the lotus flower.
Perhaps he sees more when Alma is closer or tries to reach him, or hen memories of the past surface?
Perhaps the woman in question was the one with the coat of the USA's branch, the one who made the third exorcists. Bak said something about being involved in making Kanda, perhaps she was involved in such actions as well. Perhaps she made them battle and Kanda's unconsciousness remembers she exists but doesn't remember who she is or who Alma was. Perhaps after the battle they erased his memory to prevent him from going insane?
I really hope the 14th is good. Allen being bad is as odd as to see Komui work. Perhaps his intentions are to control the rest of the Noah family and probably live in peace, or perhaps just to bring a sort of final judgement and then have an ending with everyone attending school a la Evangelion (hope we don't have an ending like Evangelion's anime, I couldn't sort it out at all!).
Hope he does. Perhaps he is the musician the 14th left behind, perhaps he will aid Allen to overcome the 14th within him.
Yup, the robot that looked like a ghost and said something about Kanda being ready to make slices of beansprouts. The other day I saw him at a "Family Walker" doujinshi, when little Aren woke up Kanda to take him to the bathroom because there was a ghost. I haven't seen him for a long while.
*hugs tightly*
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It was heavily implied that Hevlaska was probably once human, and a member of the Rouvelier family -- namely, the "holy girl" they first offered up as a sacrifice to the Order.