Former events and recent events discussion

[riot-of-flowers.livejournal.com]

It is pretty much obvious that D.Gray-Man's manga is reaching its end, especially taking in consideration what has taken place in the latest chapter and all the jazz that has been played so far.

Well, today, after overdosing myself with ice-cream to lose coherence to make some indecent fanfiction, I recalled a few things that took place long ago in the manga and tried to sort out some things of the recent chapter.


I recall that at some point of the manga, near the attack of the Headquarters and when the Akuma level 4 showed up, our adorable evil mustache man, Leverrier told Hevlaska she was a "kinslayer", that she had destroyed her own kin.

Was it mentioned how she killed them or why?


I recall as well that at Timothy's arch a level 4 akuma showed up. Weren't they rare and never existed one before? Why suddenly there were more?


In the spanish side of this fandom, long ago, a great fanfiction author said that it was obvious that the 14th was Allen and that he was going to steal the Earl's position. If anyone sees her, because she hasn't updated that much, ask her if she is not Hoshino or something. She guessed it last year, more or less in April.

Anyways, considering that Allen is "The destroyer of time" and that Kanda sees a clock, it might be possible that the loved person (if you are a fangirl of their pairing, love in a couple like way; if you are not a fangirl of that pairing, love in a friends like way) Allen might end killing will be Kanda.

But why does Kanda see lotus flowers everywhere? Do you have any theory about it? Is Alma trying to tell him something or is a side effect of being an experiment?


Although Cross was shot and presumed to be dead, his body was never found. There's a chance he might be alive. If he was alive, do you think he would show up afterwards in the upcoming chapters?


Also, if you have any theories about the latest chapter's late pages or the chapter overall it would be nice to hear them (I love theories <3).


And has anyone seen that robot that used to pop up every now and then at the beginning of the manga? I kind of miss that guy too.


My sincere apologies for all the grammatical horrors (awful language barriers) and the sheer amount of silliness

Comments

[riot-of-flowers.livejournal.com]

I hope Lavi gets to become the heart! It would be unexpected and great <3 (I sort of hope as well that a non-exorcist person gets to be the heart as well, I don't know, like Komui or Johnny, someone who is kind but is not an exorcist).

Hoshino has to deal with Lavi's past and the whole Bookmen group. How and when did they start and why?

*hugs tightly*

[enemytosleep]

If it is Komui or Johnny (or some other non-exorcist) it would mean that they haven't located the Heart yet, which is still feasible. I really hope it's not Lenalee.

Are the Bookmen human? What special abilities do they posses other than the obvious memory ones? What's the deal with Lavi's eyepatch (does he wear it as part of his observance training? Is he hiding something under there?).

And Kanda. I assume he was some child they picked up off the street and experimented on, but he is Japanese, yes? Isn't Japan overrun with high level akuma? More explanation please!

[riot-of-flowers.livejournal.com]

I really hope it's not Lenalee not because I dislike that girl, actually, I like her, but if she is the Heart it might be way too cliché (girls have to have cute things! 8D Hearts are one of them). I would like it more if she just stood in the battle, gave us her best smile and then left to kick some ass with her elegant boots. She needs to show how awesome she can be!

Yup! There's not enough info about that clan and they sound very interesting. And Kanda, well, for a very stupid fanfiction I started to write after sleeping 2 hours and having an overdose of sugar, I thought he could have been one of the very few people the Order got to rescue before the Earl took over the country.

*hugs*

[enemytosleep]

I go back and forth with my feelings on Lenalee. Sometimes I'm very happy with her, and other times she is os weak spirited it is hard not to be annoyed. I do try to keep in mind that she was orphaned, abducted by the order, held by force away from her only family, and made to accommodate the Innocence (which must have been scary, and she says the Boots hurt her)...so not having the strongest sense of self is understandable. But I really wish she was a stronger female character in such a male dominated cast.

But here's the thing re: Japan. They imply that the Earl and the akuma took over and flourished during the Edo period (roughly 1600 - late 1800), as the country was secluded from foreign trade during those 300 years and their presence would go unnoticed by the Order, etc. So how old is Kanda? They say he's 18, but is he really? Where did they get him from if he isn't 300 years old (and how old is Lavi for that matter. His memories imply that he's either very old, or has somehow absorbed the memories of the Bookmen before him..another unexplained Bookmen ability?)?

Thank you for nerding this out with me. :D I love nerding these things.

[riot-of-flowers.livejournal.com]

You are welcome <3 I love nerding stuff, I tend to do it with medicine, I'm not so good at international history.

Well, at the manga it says that it's the imaginary end of the 19th century (chapter 1, page 6 at OneManga). Considering that Japan was forced to open up to the world 1854 by Comodore Matthew Perry it could have gone more or less like this: Japan was forced to open, during that brief time the Order managed to land to the opened up country (if I recall properly there was a strong fight due religion as well, so the Order might have left to the country as well to find exorcists). They found Kanda, the Earl came and screwed things up.

Afterwards political stuff ensued and said that Japan had closed itself towards the world because of X reason and that's why no one can longer visit the country. They won't receive them and those who are found will be penalized.

At least that's how I did it at the fic: It's 1874, Kanda is 10 years old, Japan has been open at least good 20 years. Kanda is taken by local people as a descendent from Kaguya but in fact he is a half redeemed akuma soul transplanted within a woman's womb, a woman who was unable to have children. He is born, believed to be a princess of some sort and because of that crack ensues (it's a comedy about Kanda having to endure being a Disney Princess but being an exorcist at the same time).

Well, leaving aside the sheer amount of my stupidity, it could be that time and it could have happened that.

And Lavi, well, he might be older, we don't even know his real name, he could be anything, especially because of his memories.

*hugs*

[enemytosleep]

Oh my history is pretty terrible too.

I guess my point about Kanda and Japan is that wouldn't he have known about akuma if he had survived in Japan late 1800? At that point the country was supposedly overrun and only the strongest survive (Chomeske saying it would be very difficult for humans to get along less than a decade after he was created). So no one should have been surprised the Earl was there, or at least have gone to investigate sooner (or did they? They seemed to know the ark was there with the akuma plant when they sent Cross in). There are just a lot of things that don't seem to add up 100%, and I'm curious to see if and when she connects it all for us.

Who knows what and when did they learn it?!?!?! XD

I have so many questions about this story!

[riot-of-flowers.livejournal.com]

If it had been after 1850, and if Kenshin Himura and Discovery Channel taught me anything, is that during that period there were many bloody fights and rebelions, the perfect soil to cultivate akumas due losses (former times were better to do so, but the Earl might have woke up during this period). The Earl smelled the roses, smiled creepily and then spread like a disease all over Japan.

The Order couldn't tell because when there's war, missing people and massive deaths do not seem to be so odd. They might have gotten there and got killed as well.

Kanda could have been abducted or his mommy was abducted and then SHAZZAM! instant Kanda. Better than noodles, still bad for your digestion.

Then the canibalistic party ensued at the island, akumas grew in huge amounts and the Earl did shit in his Earl like way <3

I got lost, which story?

*hugs*

[enemytosleep]

It is was absolutely a bloody time, and the perfect era to produce mass amounts of akuma. But look here:

http://www.onemanga.com/D.Gray-Man/77/04/

This leads me to believe that over the last few centuries (leading up to mid and late 1800), the Earl has been having a field day over in Japan, making it his base of operation. By 1850, there would be very few humans left in this alternate 19th century of D. Gray-man. I just find it quite a stretch that any of the Order could have come in for Kanda (roughly 1880, yes?) and not notice the activity, as it is heavily implied that by that point things were already well under the control of akuma. It wasn't something that burst out of control in the last decade, it had been going on for centuries under the blind eye of the Order (as I read it anyway).

I am dying to know if he was abducted, if he was found outside of Japan, if some part of the Order knew what was going on in Japan and decided to do nothing...

hehe, I meant the story of the series itself (the manga/anime)

:3

[riot-of-flowers.livejournal.com]

Ah! I see clearly now, I had forgotten that part,

Perhaps or perhaps they took advantage of the situation. We have seen that they are doing almost everything to fight the Earl, they might have taken a bunch of people prior the attack or during it, when it was still weak, and decided to experiment on it: shove innocences within them to see if they were compatible thus making fallen ones, the second type exorcists, etc.

Perhaps Kanda is 18 years old but is the child of one of the many people who were rescued from Japan at the lockdown times, when the Earl started to attack and they found out.

Hoshino, we so totally demand explanations 8D

*hugs*

[enemytosleep]

For sure! The Order has done some really terrible things in secret, so really, Kanda and any other Japanese refugees were fair game for all sorts of nasty experiments (regardless of when they were rescued - before or after the akuma explosion).

This and many other things...we need to know! XD I so hope she tells us soon. I'd die if it all goes unexplained. At least it leaves lts of wiggle room for fanfic though, right?

:3

[woodrokiro.livejournal.com]

I want more of a Lavi backround as well. I didn't feel like the chapters about when he came to the Black Order were quite enough to be considered his "history" explanation.

...Then again, maybe I'm just in denial and always want to hope for the chance to learn something new about him >.> lol