Manga discussion for recent chapters

[yezhanquan85.livejournal.com]

Spoilers abound. If you're allergic to them, stay clear.

Well, 144 was the first chapter for 2008 and already, Hoshino-sensei has dropped us a "WTF is the mystery guy?" I'm not trying to speculate who the source of the laughter is. This discussion is to speculate on the general trend of the series.

1) We've definitely reached a point where the Earl isn't laughing as much as usual. With the Egg destroyed by the generals and Allen, we can safely say that Lulubell had failed her first manga mission. With no new Akumas to come for a long time, and Lulubell's wastage of her army, what would the Earl do? This leads to my second question.

2) The rest of the Noah family. Are the Noah found, or what? My personal guess (judging from Skin's case) is that something must trigger the Noah powers latent within them in order for them to "turn dark", so to speak. Would the Earl begin his tour of the world to find the rest?

3) Our dear Hitler-lookalike and Howard Link. I believe they don't have ill intentions, but their plan would somehow put the Order under greater danger from the Earl. Seriously, I can't imagine a cake-baker as truly evil.

4) The Science Department is now badly waxed after the invasion. Would Komui and his gang be able to repair two Innocence weapons in time AND forge Chaoji's weapon? Personally, I think not. Then again, with Bak Chan's help...

5) 144 marks the first time that Allen didn't get the short end of the stick after using Crown Clown Omega (Contrast the rescue of Miranda against Tyki's pwning of him in armour form AND the current arc before the generals hop in). Cross actually praised him again for reaching the 100% mark. (The first time was a curt remark that Allen "finally gave his Innocence a decent form".) So, the "Heart" question is again wide open.

Comments?

P.S. If you're the artist who posted a topless Lulubell in the old community, I salute you. Seems that Hoshino-sensei gave us just that, without the close up though =X.

Comments

[lucidlucifer.livejournal.com]

Question 3 - The Hitler guy angers me, as he seems to put his own personal ambitions before the greater good. I think this makes him a VERY dangerous man.

I think it would be too easy for Allen to be the "destroyer of time aka the Earl" and also have the Heart. I think the possesor of the heart hasnt appeared yet.

[carver.livejournal.com]

3. Eh, not really. It's entirely possible that he has his own iffy personal goals aside, but so far, he's just demonstrated that he's a crony for the Vatican. It's the goal of the church itself to win the war at all costs. It tends to happen whenever the Holy See/organized religion in general is involved with anything, if you'll notice the trend all throughout written history. He's a jerk, sure, but he's ultimately a big ol' tool. Just like the Exorcists.

[animalboything.livejournal.com]

I'd be stoked if she went into the other Noah stories, though another idea was whether some of the ones who were 'wiped out' were going to be brought back. also can't help but think we're in for a major, major blood bath.

And it was Beanclam who drew Lulubell.

[sailormac.livejournal.com]

I think we're going to get a revelation that there's a latent Noah somewhere within the Order. Not one of our major characters (other than the Allen/14th connection), but maybe one of Komui's staff.

Searching for more Noahs definitely sounds like a logical next move for the Earl. And I still think that rather than the weapons being reforged, Lavi and Kanda will both end up parasitic, with their weapons popping out of their hands like Arashi in X. (Or maybe Kanda's entire arm will form into a huge sword, which would be pretty cool).

[yezhanquan85.livejournal.com]

Hmmm... My own take is that Lenalee is the Heart, and the Heart's role is a bit more than just "destroy it and all Innocence shards will be gone".

Just as Skin claimed that the Noah never truly dies, I speculate that the Innocence is never truly destroyed, so to speak. My guess is that the power of the Heart allows shards which were previously destroyed to add their powers to wielders within its range. For the finale against the Earl and the Noah, if Lavi and Krory still can't beat lvl 3s easily, we'll have a big problem.

[firehawk05.livejournal.com]

Incidentally, if Kanda's arm forms a huge sword, it'd be kind of a bit like one of the forms of Allen's Crown Clown. A development,which I imagine, will please neither of them. :D

[yezhanquan85.livejournal.com]

I actually have a few ideas on how Innocences would be enhanced by the power of the Heart.

1) Miranda's Time Record would be permanent recovery for the wounded, and she'll be able to bring back the dead who died while inside her Record. Also, her fatigue will be reduced (not eliminated). She'll receive an attack: Time Erase. As the name suggest, for a high price, she'll be able to erase a person's existence.

2) Krory's teeth can now chew through level 3s. Always thought that he looked stupid being unable to bite through anything tougher than a level 2.

3) Lavi's hammer produces shockwaves when it hits the ground (much like Daisya's Charity Bell). Also, when the seals are used, there will be avatars representing each seal used. Hiban's a bratty-sounding young man, while Mokuban and Tenban are ladies. (STRIKE?)

[kaiamara.livejournal.com]

3) That's a fun idea, it'd be neat to see. Espically avatars/spirits/people as Rabi's seals.

[arvicitox.livejournal.com]

I have no idea if Komui is going to be able to repair the innocence weapons and create Chaoiji's in time.

As for the Noah. I do believe that the Earl will go in search for other members of the Noah family. I also agree with what sailormac is saying. There is possibly a dormant Noah in the midst of the Black Order.

About the Noah that were defeated, I'm almost positively sure that at least some of them, if not all of them, will be ressurected by the Earl or someone of greater power.

And I also predict a bloodbath coming extremely soon.

[carver.livejournal.com]

2. I'm not entirely sure. I'm thinking that they are out there, seeing as there were 13-ish chairs around the table that the Noah family was sitting at in volume three, and there appeared to be occupants for all of them... It is odd that we've never seen any of them, though.

3. Probably not evil. They're just your average cronies, more than likely. Although the 'secret mission' that Link's on may suggest there's more to them that they're letting on.

Which begs the question for me.... where on Earth are people getting this Leverrier>Hitler stuff? Barring the mustache, they really look nothing alike. If anything at all, Leverrier greater resembles a very loose manga adaptation of J. Jonah Jameson or something.

[yezhanquan85.livejournal.com]

Nice comparison with ol' Triple J. I agree with you on this.

[carver.livejournal.com]

I think if Hitler and JJJ managed to breed somehow, they'd probably produce Leverrier.

[kkamagwi.livejournal.com]

1. Ha ha, poor Earl!

2. I was under the impression that all of the Noah had already gathered. I could have been leaping to conclusions, though. Either way, they need a replacement for Skin now, and having the Earl (or existing Noahs?) search for the next Noah to awaken would be an interesting plot. It would parallel the Exorcists search for more Innocence and compatble users, too.

4. There's a decent level of dramatic tension being maintained with all these broken weapons, even if the Exorcists did destroy the egg. Go Science Department!

[firehawk05.livejournal.com]

Hrm. I thought that maybe another Noah would awaken, since it was hinted in Skin's backstory that his Noah side activated when he was in his 20s. If one does happen to awaken, I thought that maybe one the akuma walking around would pick him up and maybe alert the Earl or something like in Skin's case. Liked the parallel drawn between the search for Innocence though...

It'd be nice to see what the repaired weapons would be like especially since there was a hint that Linalee's boots had evolved to a kind of semiparasitic level.

[kaiamara.livejournal.com]

2) I agree that the Noah are found when they 'wake up'. From draughts comment, there are about 13 Noahs we've met, 1 died, not sure on the other 2/1. The number is actually set, The Fourteenth set it for us. The Fourteenth being dead tells us there are 13, so far. Hm, how many do we have left to meet? Road, Tyki, Jasdero, Debit, Skin and Lulubell. 7 or 8 (depending on how you count Jasdevi) Noahs left to meet.

[dark6jewel.livejournal.com]

Probably there is a Noah inside the order. I mean there has to be a mole inside the "good" organization, it's like TRADITION. Ask for the heart. Although Allen is the main character, there are 4 more exorcist with over %100 synchron rate. I think Lenalee's case is a bit more special. If Allen's got the heart, then there is no reason for Lenalee's innocence to act like that. However, if Lenalee's got the heart . We could still say that Allen is teh Destroyer of the Time.(Aka:Allen is the special one, not the innocence, but we cant say the same thing for Lenalee)

I wonder if they would put another manga tradition on action(main character going dark/having dark side)If Mana really is the 14th. That means Allen has Mana's soul AND a Noah soul within(Traitor or not)

God I'm confused XP