Question about Chapter 184

[eiliem.livejournal.com]

So a while ago there was a discussion about where Allen's name came from. Mana obviously gave him his last name and someone wondered if he had also given him the name Allen. I think the general consensus was that Allen was too old when he and Mana met to not already have a name and that he probably wouldn't have taken well to someone just up and replacing his name.

And then this chapter happened and I am all kinds of confused all over again. What. Was the deal. With that dream? o.O

Why was Mana saying "Allen", in quotation marks? And then the disappearing name? What. The hell.

*Is massively bewildered and alarmed*

So - because of the previous discussion - my first thought was "well, maybe Allen actually answered to brat or something at the circus" and now as I'm writing this another (possibly more reasonable, and vastly more alarming) option came to mind - was Mana replacing Allen's with the Fourteenth's perhaps?

Sorry if this was evident to everyone. I am still not sure either way. Thoughts?


Also, did anyone notice that when Allen was pinned to the wall/thing the blood splashed behind him shaped wings?

Allen's face when he realized he was in a dream = hilarious

Comments

[eiliem.livejournal.com]

I think I read somewhere that it had something to do with Allen...

So what does Dead Gray-Man mean?! And what's with the hyphen? The gray-man has two dead people in his head? *doesn't want to consider the other possibilities...but does anyways* Someone came up with the idea that Allen was an akuma, modified by Cross (it does not help that in the original premise and inspiration for DGM, Zone, featured an Allen look-alike who was an akuma ;_;) So...if it's Dead Gray-Man, and the "dead" isn't referring to Mana and/or the 14th...*does not waaaaaaant* ;_;

I don't think Allen's an Akuma. But what if he were dead in some other way? Or maybe it could be a metaphorical death - ie the Noah takeover. *and of course, all of this assuming that D. stands for Dead*

I hope we're towards the end of the middle - I want answers dammit!

[willowchan.livejournal.com]

Well I think if it were Dead Gray Man, it would solely be referring to the fourteenth who had indeed died before. That Noah was gray like Allen, since he may have been evil but (I guess) since he loved his brother so much he couldnt imagine destroying humanity (which he must have loved which made him good?) and then he betrayed the Earl. Something along those lines.

But Allen died a long time ago before he even got the crowned clown. He felt death way back when he encountered Tyki as a Noah the first time.

And knowing a bit of Japanese, I could imagine D standing for dead but not necessarily saying the guy is dead. More like having to do with the dead, which Allen does have a lot to do with the dead. He talks to souls.

[eiliem.livejournal.com]

Oooooo - I like your theories!

Your icon cracks me up every time I see it! It's such a rare face for Allen to make!

[willowchan.livejournal.com]

I believe he was looking at Kanda when he made this face.

And thank you. I have my own series so I'm always paying a lot of attention to potential plot developments to keep sharp.

[eiliem.livejournal.com]

Of course he was looking at Kanda :P

Series? Do you write (or draw)?

[willowchan.livejournal.com]

rofl! of COURSE! :x

I both write and draw since it's a manga. ^.^ It's in English but I may make a Japanese translation someday.. x_X I'm just no good at boy language yet, and the main character is this gruff low class boy.

[eiliem.livejournal.com]

Manga ftw! Is it published anywhere?

[eiliem.livejournal.com]

Wait but...Allen *felt* death but he didn't actually *die*...right? :S

[willowchan.livejournal.com]

Hmm, that's all a matter of opinion. Regardless, I'm assuming it has more to do with Allen's interactions with souls than it does with anyone having to be dead.

[eiliem.livejournal.com]

True. But you think he actually died then? *had not thought about it that way*

[willowchan.livejournal.com]

o.o hmmm.. Depends. Maybe death is a fuzzy thing for Hoshino and not just black and white. Allen did say he felt death and all.. And Allen should have died more than once now. ^^; ha ha ha.. like, 3 times he seems to nearly be done for... maybe 4 including most recently.

... I know I wouldn't have survived a sword that big slicing through my torso... ^^;;

[sleepy-akira.livejournal.com]

Maybe...Just maybe, the D stands for the 14th's real name...?